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Old 04-06-2013, 01:57 PM   #76
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I have the saw and have never even put batteries in the laser. i have yet to ever do that with any saw.

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Framer... you have the older model that required batteries. The new model is powered by AC for the laser. I just got annoyed by the trigger activating the laser so i changed it so now i can turn it on/off using a rocker switch. Also new model is a dual bevel which is a HUGE plus
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Old 04-14-2013, 05:08 PM   #78
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I went ahead and purchased the new/latest model 12" Double-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw With Laser Guide from Harbor Freight - in early Jan 2013 - for $119.
I am also on a budget and needed a good sliding compound miter saw. Like you I was going to buy the one at harbor freight, even though I heard a few bad things about it. Then, by shear luck I found THIS really nice Ryobi 10" Sliding Compound Miter Saw with Laser. It is usually around $200.00 at home depot. I got it for only around 30.00 more than the harbor freight saw, and the 2 year warranty, plus the fact that it's built MUCH better easily is worth the 30.00 difference. I slapped a Diablo blade on it and I am set. The place I got it from online had incredible customer service, really fast shipping and they included a pair of safety glasses, a flashlight, and two pairs of work gloves as free gifts with the order (plus a 10.00 coupon for my next purchase)

Harbor Freight has some great deals, but you have to use some common sense, and also factor in how much you will be using that particular tool. 9 times out of 10 when you use the 20% off coupon from their site, their tools are a great bargain. In fact the only tool that I ever had poor luck with from them was their clamping pliers. They literally never worked right, so I took them back. Second pair was just as bad so I scrapped them. Everything else from HF has always performed well for what was paid for it
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:38 AM   #79
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But does that Ryobi saw bevel both ways? Im not looking at it right now but I dont believe it does. The reason I got that HF saw as well is because of the dual bevel. I actually own the older 10" slide which only bevels to the left and have used it alot for the 3 years I have owned it. All the miter saws we use at work bevel both ways and I have gotten so used to using the bevel to the right that I just needed to get one for myself as well and since I am on a budget I went for the HF one. It works great to be honest with you. I installed a dewalt 60T blade on it and it cuts great. And to be honest with you, I cut through a 5/4"x 8" piece of brazilian cherry and the saw did not bog down at all. At work we have a Hitachi 12" slidiung dual bevel saw which I use to miter our tread risers and that saw bogs down big time cutting yellow pine and poplar.
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Dual bevel is really only functional if the blade is set true. From the bad reviews Iíve read on the 10Ē Harbor freight saw, and from personally examining it up close, I donít believe it can be set true on the Harbor Freight saw. One of the issues some people were complaining about the Harbor Freight saw was that it wouldnít hold an adjustment true. You would set it and it would be fine, but a few cuts down the road and it would be off again, plus there is a metal screw that many were complaining about, stating that the blade would sometimes hit it. This is simply poor engineering on Harbor Freights part. The majority of people would never need to use a dual bevel, even some professionals donít consider it very important, and even the few that do would probably only use it for occasionally cutting something like - - long - - pieces of crown molding. I'm not even sure if my saw has dual bevel because it's not a needed feature. Dual bevel is mearly for convenience. You can simply flip your piece over and get the same results as with a dual bevel saw. A dual bevel won't make your life any better if you want QUALITY work. If you want speed, then maybe yes. Besides, since no 2 corners of a any room are equal you'll HAVE TO set your angles for each corner using scrap pieces anyway. Iím not aware of any Harbor Freight 10Ē miter saw that has dual bevel, but even if one did I probably would not depend on it anyway for the reasons mentioned above. The most important part of your saw is to have a GOOD blade on it, which is why one of the first things I did was to buy a Diablo blade. Iíve never used a dewalt blade but I know it is worlds better than the stock Harbor Freight blade, so you should be in good shape. Just be sure that dewalt blade never comes in contact with that metal screw or it will definitely tear it up.
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I have an old Craftsman dual miter (it was a gift) and that has always been my complaint with it. You could spend an hour setting it perfect and after about 4 cuts it was out again.
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Okay, I realize that I'll probably get a lot of sneers and jeers for this - along with just as many "why would you . . . " comments, but I'm still curious as to whether anyone here has any experience with Harbor Freight's 10" Table Saw:



http://www.harborfreight.com/10-13-a...saw-68827.html



I've read many of the reviews on the product page - and there doesn't yet appear to be any on the HF REVIEWS website. Nevertheless, I am much more interested in any thoughts/comments from any of you who might have some first-hand (or even second/third hand) knowledge or experience with this product.

(not looking to do any professional (or even semi-professional) jobs with it - purely home-hobby level DIY stuff).


THANKS !!!
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I have a couple of the “Ace Hardware” version of that saw. They cost and look the same as that one. Delta also has a saw at that price.

I use one for cutting cedar shingles/shakes when I'm in the air on scaffolding. The other has dado blades in it which I sometimes need on site but that's rare.

As long as it's used for light duty work it's ok for 1x stock, it cuts 2x fine too if you take it easy and don't push it. Push it hard and you “will” burn it up quickly. I look at those saws as “disposable”.

The fence sucks but for light duty hobby use there's nothing wrong with those saws.

Ditch the stock and buy a decent blade.
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I also had one similar to that---Like Ron said--it's light duty and the fence is sloppy---but I used it until I wore it out----

For occasional use---with some time wasted setting the fence---you will get your moneys worth out of it---
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Ditch the stock and buy a decent blade.
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The stock blade is worthless. Slap a good Diablo blade on there and you will be fine.
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At long last, I'm FINALLY ready to start learning/working with my router. The only thing I need now are router bits. As a BEGINNER WITH A BUDGET, I wanted to get some thoughts/feedback as to whether anyone here has any experience with Harbor Freight's carbide-tip router bits (see link below).

http://www.harborfreight.com/12-piec...its-46832.html


It looks like a decent set to start off with - but I would still like to get some thoughts from the community here.


THANKS !!! - Looking forward to any feedback you can provide.
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When you know what size and profile bit you need for your router go out and get a decent one. If you're just noodlin' around knocking corners off something then the HF stuff might be sufficient. But if you need to a lot of edges you'll come to regret using cheap stuff and/or not having a spare one handy. I rounded over quite a few cedar boards for my boy's backyard playset. I have an HF set. The bit lost it's sharpness pretty quick, maybe after about a dozen edges. I went out and got two better quality ones. Figuring it's more hassle to have to stop and go get another bit... The rest of the job didn't even put a dent in the better quality bit, so I still have another brand new spare. So for just an occasional bit of edging, sure, the HF set beats nothing... but not for any kind of quantity.
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. I have an HF set. The bit lost it's sharpness pretty quick, maybe after about a dozen edges. I went out and got two better quality ones. Figuring it's more hassle to have to stop and go get another bit... The rest of the job didn't even put a dent in the better quality bit . . .
Out of curiosity, what better-quality brand/bit did you pick up?
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Out of curiosity, what better-quality brand/bit did you pick up?
Yeah, I knew that'd get asked. I can't recall, and all of the stuff is packed up for when we move into the new house this weekend. Realistically I won't see those bits again until Christmas... hopefully of THIS year!

But I got them at a local building supply place, one that tends to avoid selling the lower end tools. Where I trying to decide I'd visit forums that focus on the kind of work involved. I'm sure various woodworking forums would have a lot of great input based on the kinds of woods involved.
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Freud, Diablo, Vermont America are all in my box. I don't think I've ever seeked out a particular brand as much as just being satisfied that the hardware store had the profile I needed that day.

I own quite a few individual bits that cost more than that HF set. I just paid $40 for the Freud version of that cove bit with bearing they're showing.

I agree with just buy a quality bit for whatever profile you need for the project at hand, your collection will grow in time.

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