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Old 01-15-2014, 11:24 PM   #61
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Just checked and its at $299 still around here. Wonder what's up with that.... I paid $269

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They may be clearing it out. They seem to have a new product, the 7480

http://dewalt.com/tools/machinery-po...s-dwe7480.aspx

It's probably a replacement. The main difference seems to be it can rip to 24" so unlike the 745 you can split a piece of plywood down the middle, which may have been seen as a major competitive product problem for the 745. One negative of the new saw seems to be it won't accept dado blades. Seems a bit odd to design a new product seemingly to address some competitive weaknesses and leave this out. HD price is at $369, which - as I recall so I may be wrong - was about what the old saw used to cost.

Seems like a smart move. One of the reasons I went with the Bosch 4100 was for the fence rip capacity. Usually I'll still have those big cuts done right at the store and then smaller cuts at home, but I wanted it anyway just in case. Except for the dado issue - maybe not important to some - the saw now seems more feature competitive with some more expensive products.
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The older Dewalt, DW745. isn't supposed to be used with dado blades either. It's the only reason that saw didn't come home with me last night.
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The older Dewalt, DW745. isn't supposed to be used with dado blades either. It's the only reason that saw didn't come home with me last night.
I don't think you can use a dado with any of the portable saws, I may be wrong. I would think if any portable saw did it would be the Bosch 4100 but that saw weighs 124 pounds, the DW745 weighs about 48 pounds, not that the weight has to do with anything. I was just thinking there is no way I could handle a saw that weighed 124 pounds now days. I hate that Bosch is made in Taiwan now days.
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the bosch is 124 lbs when its mounted to a gravity rise stand.. the dewalt saw that mounts to their rolling stand is quite a bit more than 48 lbs.. we have two of them at work. the majority of the guys on our crew cant lift it by themselves
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Seems like all they did was add 4" of rip capacity on this saw. Mine has 20" plus it actually goes another inch or so past the 20" point on the ruler.
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the bosch is 124 lbs when its mounted to a gravity rise stand.. the dewalt saw that mounts to their rolling stand is quite a bit more than 48 lbs.. we have two of them at work. the majority of the guys on our crew cant lift it by themselves
Thanks for clearing that up Kirk, that makes sense. My nephew had a DW774, I think, (it was one of the first portable table saw DeWalt made in the yellow plastic) but he had the light fold up stand and I know that saw wasn't that heavy.

I want to sell my Unisaw and buy one of the DeWalt saws, the Unisaw takes up way too much room in my shop.
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I don't think you can use a dado with any of the portable saws, I may be wrong. I would think if any portable saw did it would be the Bosch 4100 but that saw weighs 124 pounds, the DW745 weighs about 48 pounds, not that the weight has to do with anything. I was just thinking there is no way I could handle a saw that weighed 124 pounds now days. I hate that Bosch is made in Taiwan now days.
The lightweight (52 lbs) bosch gts1031 is dado compatible. It is only an 18" rip though.

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As both Big Jim and Kirk mention above, the Bosch 4100-09 on the stand is 124 lbs. But the 4100 saw alone should be about 60 lbs alone if that's how you'd use it.

Anyway, since dados have come up, the 4100 does take dado blades. I've not done it myself, but I've just checked my manual and it does have instructions for stacked dado sets to be used. In addition to - or included in the blade kit, you would need some kind of Dado Accessory Kit that has an accessory washer, and then you'd want a special Dado Table Insert. I haven't shopped for it, but I'd think their own blade kit would have this, but if you were to go with this saw and get another brand dado set, you'd want to make sure about that additional accessory washer being included or getting it separately. Bosch has a dado insert plate as well, but I'd probably get one from Lee, same as the zero clearance insert I got from them for my regular blade.
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As both Big Jim and Kirk mention above, the Bosch 4100-09 on the stand is 124 lbs. But the 4100 saw alone should be about 60 lbs alone if that's how you'd use it.

Anyway, since dados have come up, the 4100 does take dado blades. I've not done it myself, but I've just checked my manual and it does have instructions for stacked dado sets to be used. In addition to - or included in the blade kit, you would need some kind of Dado Accessory Kit that has an accessory washer, and then you'd want a special Dado Table Insert. I haven't shopped for it, but I'd think their own blade kit would have this, but if you were to go with this saw and get another brand dado set, you'd want to make sure about that additional accessory washer being included or getting it separately. Bosch has a dado insert plate as well, but I'd probably get one from Lee, same as the zero clearance insert I got from them for my regular blade.
In my 42 years of wood working I owned two dados, one a stack and the other a wobble set. I probably used them maybe two or three times all that time. I did see the results of a dado stack that came loose, talk about a mess. I find the router is much easier and quicker to set up and use than a dado and it is a neater results. JMHO
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the bosch 4000, 4100 and the gt10 all can accept a dado blade as the throat plate is the exact same on all three models from what i recollect.. you can order the part on amazon pretty easily or any tool store that does custom orders

regarding the weight thing i prefer the saws that you can dismount the saw from the stand easily.. i have the bosch 4000 and the old folding stand.. its much easier to move around that way. the dewalt saws are a pain in the ass to try to unmount from the rolling stand

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