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Old 09-15-2011, 10:46 AM   #1
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Hi, I recently got my first framing nailer, "Northern Industrial 3-in-1 Framing Nailer" from Northern Tool. Admittedly, it is an El-Cheapo, China's Best, but are framing nailers supposed to throw out sparks when they fire? This thing shoots out sparks from the nail head, and worse, it will double fire - sometimes shooting a second nail on top of the first or right next to it. I've had some nails come out looking like Chinese Noodles, one was bent in a complete "U" shape. And, no, I don't have it set on rapid fire. I read on their website customer reviews saying they experienced the same things. Just wondering if all framing nail guns do this or is it because it's an el-cheapo?

BTW, I have a Craftsman finish nailer which works great - no sparks!

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Sounds like el-cheapo. I have an older senco and a newer powermax, and neither shoot sparks or mangle nails. I especially like the powermax, it's about 2/3 the size of the senco, with more power and less wait. I bought the gun from Hartville Hardware during one of their tool shows, $199 with two free boxes of nails. I chose 3" galvanized ringshanks, so the gun was $100 when you figure the cost of the nails. Nails btw, were made in the USA, good quality.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:31 AM   #3
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I guess for a home owner tool that isn't used much it's okay. I can't imagine a tool being so crappy built that it can't put a nail in wood without bending the nail. We use nothing but Hitachi nail guns for framers. Some of them I have are getting close to 10 years old and I've yet to have one worked on. I do the maintenance on them every Saturday morning though. But I maintain my tools unlike most. I even have one of their cheapies which is a basic gun for guys I hire that may not know the business or just lack experience. I've never had a problem with that gun either. You can get one for about $179.00 at Lowes but I'd suggest a tool shop for the best pricing.
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I fully admit I bought an el-cheapo. I only needed it for one homeowner type project. Couldn't see spending $$$ on something I'm only going to use maybe every few years. If I were a pro I certainly would not have bought this piece of Chinese junk.

Trapper, the bent nails came from the unwanted double firing of one nail on top of another.
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I have a Senco pneumatic framing nailer that will occasionally spark when firing. I think it's due to the clipped head nails it uses and the way they nest.

It will also double fire occasionally, but that's only when I'm pushing the gun into a tight space. That's operator error though.

The only time I've had it mangle a nail is when I happen to shoot one on top of another. Operator error again.
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Ditto Fabrk8r on all counts. My Senco FramePro will spark occasionally, and I have heard others, some with other brands of guns, comment on the same thing, but have never heard or seen it caused by an adverse condition. I have also encountered double taps, but, in general, attribute them to what I refer to as uncontrolled recoil, sometimes caused by working in a tight place, where the geometry of the body may be considerably less than ideal, and other times simply caused by what I refer to the learning curve.
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Take it back, swap it for another. Quality of NT and HF tools varies from one tool to the next, sometimes you get a dud, other times you get lucky and get a decent tool.
If you get two bad ones in a row go get your money back. Consistent double firing is an accident waiting to happen, sooner or later you may be digging one of those chinese noodles out of yourself.

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