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harold938 07-04-2007 02:01 AM

Black & Decker Drill 18V is it worth it
i'm a budget i want a decent some better that my crappy 18v skil "which is a re-furbish" and it dying slowly and slowly

so i saw on lowes they have a 18V Black&Decker for $99.99

slakker 07-04-2007 11:01 AM

I had originally bought the 18v B&D kit, it was great doing odds and ends around the home. The first time I used it with a 1/2" spade bit through 4" cedar garden ties, the sucker freezed on me... I've scrapped it and have a Ridgid set now... :thumbsup:

NateHanson 07-05-2007 07:21 AM

Repeatedly buying cheap tools that die or don't accomplish the job really ends up being a waste of money, in my opinion. You spent money on the skil driver, now you want to spend more on the B&D. For the cost of the two crappy tools you could have bought a decent brand. If you don't do it now, you'll just be in the same situation in another year. The more crappy tools you buy, the more money you'll be throwing away. Just bite the bullet, and buy a makita, porter cable, milwaukee, freud, or even a rigid tool. I've had great experiences with all. I'm a heavy tool user (DIY home stuff, and professional furniture builder), and in 5 years of work, I've never had to replace a tool because it wore out or couldn't do the job.

KUIPORNG 07-05-2007 10:13 AM

Experience tell me cheap 18v requires you to charge all the time and don't have the torque to do some of the hard job.... if you don't mind both... you can go for cheap tool.... but once I got my milwaukee 18v ... I am reluctant to use anything else even for driving a tiny screw as you know you are going to get the job done for sure...

johnny331 07-05-2007 03:41 PM

If it's "slowly dying" it's your battery.

I agree with all the other guy's advice, but if you don't want to spend the money, you can get your battery packs rebuilt for maybe $40-$50/each. They will work like new (or better with a higher current battery). Check ebay or a local battery store.

Last month I bought a set of dewalt drills (two drills, 4 batteries) from a local newspaper for $50, they worked great just had bad battery packs, I rebuilt them myself for about $20/each. They use "4/5 C" sized batteries, I replaced my NiCd with NiMH, they're higher current so they last longer.... hopefully someone will find this useful in the future with a "search"...

MechanicalDVR 07-07-2007 12:07 PM

Buy a better drill than B&D. The Ridgid ones have a lifetime warranty and are less expensive for a homeowner than the rest. My wife bought me a bunch of Ryobi 18v tools for Christmas a while ago and using them around the house rather than pulling my work tools out of the truck they are holding up fine.

ron schenker 07-07-2007 03:32 PM

FYI... Black and Decker owns Dewalt.
They've been around for many years and IMHO B&D is fine for a DIY

slakker 07-07-2007 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by ron schenker (Post 51985)
FYI... Black and Decker owns Dewalt.
They've been around for many years and IMHO B&D is fine for a DIY

The whole industry is consolidated with many brands owned by the same companies, but the various product lines do differ in how well they perform...

I would agree that B&D is fine for a DIY, but subject to the project. Like I said in my first post, the first time my DIY project required more power, the B&D didn't perform.

MinConst 07-07-2007 09:31 PM

B&D is owned by Dewalt but that doesn't say they are equal it quality or anything for that matter. The B&D line is OK for a home owner that uses it to drive screws into sheet rock. Drill small holes into pine. This kind if thing. More that that and it will not hold up for long.
A quality tool should last a lifetime. At least one. Some of my tools are going on 2 lifetimes. The cheaper ones I bought through the years didn't last a year.
Spend the money once and buy quality. It is worth every penny.

MechanicalDVR 07-07-2007 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by ron schenker (Post 51985)
FYI... Black and Decker owns Dewalt.
They've been around for many years and IMHO B&D is fine for a DIY

Mercedes owned Chrysler up until recently but I still wouldn't buy a Dodge.

B&D owned DeWalt years ago and DeWalt always had better shop tools (tablesaws/ radial arms/etc). I didn't care too much for DeWalt cordless tools in the recent past but their batteries have pushed me over. I also have several Milwaukee and Bosch 18v tools that are fantastic but the batteries just don't work as well as DeWalt. The new 10.8 volt Bosch stuff is beyond fantastic for holding a charge and power for size. They are my new favorites.

timmy 07-10-2007 09:45 AM

wow I had no idea B&D owned Dewalt, but I know first hand that my Dewalt 18 volt drill isway better than my buddies 18 volt B&D

SecretSquirrel 07-13-2007 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by timmy (Post 52363)
wow I had no idea B&D owned Dewalt,

That's just the tip of the iceberg. They also own Delta Machinery, Porter Cable, etc. See Wikipedia for the entire list.

Oldhouseowner 07-27-2007 01:27 AM

B&D is ok
Hi there,

The B&D should be ok. I bought one 2 years ago and it has lived through a lot(Kitchen reno, decking, fencing etc.) . I got one the one without all the fancy bits with it and the gelmax grip (What is the point of that?!). I think I paid $60.

It's a pretty good workhorse and if I drop it once in a while I am not terrified that i just blew $200+ out of the window.

I also picked up a reconditioned dewalt corded drill for when I need more power or less weight for longer projects.

Good luck with it,

elementx440 07-27-2007 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by SecretSquirrel (Post 52805)
That's just the tip of the iceberg. They also own Delta Machinery, Porter Cable, etc. See Wikipedia for the entire list.

yeah and they're all made in china by the lowest bidder. who cares. Name doesn't mean jack anymore. Go by the (recent) proven track record and word of mouth. i work for a company that makes some of the best medical equipment in the world... and the same brand name makes some of the crappiest TVs. Don't be blinded by a name or "who owns who"

I've never had a problem with my dewalts. I do have a Ryobi that I pull out for occasional little hobby work, but I wouldn't drill through block with it...

slakker 07-27-2007 02:06 AM

I think word of mouth from people experience with the product goes a long way...

But besides the product itself, the service experience is also very important. That's my one fear with buying Rigid... the product itself works great even though it's made in china. But I'm not sure what I'll do if I need to repair it, where as I know the Dewalt has a local service depot and I can just walk in a drop off.

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