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Old 06-12-2009, 02:38 PM   #16
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Bill,

I'm with you.

I think the key is Tools. Proper Instruction. The way I look at it, I will be very good at installing windows by my 4th windows. By the end, maybe I go and repair or redo the first 2.

Since I have 21 windows, and have am looking at 4k-8k of installation costs, I can go purchase 1k of tools, and use this board and available videos to learn how to remove and install the windows PERFECTLY(eventually.)

Now I jut have to find the time, and place to store all the windows if I purchase them soon. That way I can install at my own pace.

But you go first.

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Old 06-12-2009, 02:54 PM   #17
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Once you decide which manufacturer you will buy, go to their website and download the installation instructions. Window replacements are easy to do if you are a handyman with tools. Its the windows that need the frames replaced that are more involved. I think its best to watch someone install one before anyone takes on that job.
Well anyway, just follow the instructions and you will be ok. There's a few tips I want to remind you of:
Look for a piece of steel, a little smaller then the width, jamb to jamb, to use as a straight edge. Some windowsills are bowed or off level.
You will need to add shims to correct it. After that, add a layer of 1/4-3/8 thick foam insulation on the sill for the window to sit on. If the windows have jackscrews; they are only meant to move the window side to side. Once your window is centered, just lightly snug them up against the jamb. Don't over do it or the jackscrews will push both sides towards the center, making it difficult to open or close the windows. Then you just secure the window with two screws on top and two near the bottom. You will probally need some insulation for the sides and top. I like to use that liquid insulating foam in the can. Make sure you buy the type made for windows. Experiment with this foam first as it does expand 3 to 5 times the volume you apply.

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Old 06-12-2009, 03:05 PM   #18
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1K of tools?? Gee what kind of gold plated tools are those??

I paid 100 bucks (plus or minus a tad)a window for the windows I bought and think they are ten times better than what I took out,,,and thought THAT was alot of money. Spending BIG bucks for windows dont make much dollars OR sense. And they dont install all that hard. 1200-1400 bucks a window would put them out of my range of comfort. I have had crank out casements a time or two,,,and would NEVER ever 'think' of buying those again!!
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:16 PM   #19
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One reason I like DIY is that I do take more time
That's not allway a bad thing
My house had vinyl over wood shingles
So I removed the vinyl on one side of the house & did the windows. I installed new Andersen windows, not replacements
I stripped the old wood shingles off at the same time
Then I re-shingled that side, adding Tyvek
I found some ants in one corner - very small
But I sprayed the entire side w/insecticide

My front 3 equal sized windows changed to 1 large picture window in the middle flanked by 2 windows that open
It made an enormous difference in the room - our main room
This set of windows & the trim came out excellent
I installed a 5" shelf as part of the trim on the inside for small plants

In most cases my windows were large then the old windows
My openings were framed out for the pockets on each side that held the sash weights
So I stripped the molding off from the inside 1st to measure the opening. Then I ordered several windows at once

The table saw cost me maybe $300 (not the best)
I did buy a very nice mitre saw for $400 on sale & 10% off
That makes a huge difference in cutting angles
I needed a new sawzall (anyways) - $90
A new drill too, $80
I also bought a router & bits - $200

So total tools were around $1k
But all of the tools I have used for other projects
It's not like I bought anything specifically to install the windows
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:27 PM   #20
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Is it a big deal getting old "construction" windows out without removing all the j channel and vinyl siding?

OK, putting the window in the opening and ensuring plumb and square seems pretty straight forward.

But what about installing waterproofing, flashing, trim (ie. brickmold), etc, etc, without disturbing the vinyl siding already on the house. That scares me.

And G, why don't you go first, since it is your post. I insist.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:27 PM   #21
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Is it a big deal getting old "construction" windows out without removing all the j channel and vinyl siding?

OK, putting the window in the opening and ensuring plumb and square seems pretty straight forward.

But what about installing waterproofing, flashing, trim (ie. brickmold), etc, etc, without disturbing the vinyl siding already on the house. That scares me.

And G, why don't you go first, since it is your post. I insist.
i agree.

dont forget to take lots of pictures.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:04 AM   #22
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Of all of the postings, I haven't seen anyone make mention of the Federal tax Credit for energy efficiency. It is part of the stimulas package. A tax credit is available for 30% of the material cost of the window up to $1,500. Be careful here. The window rating must be .30 or less for the U value and .30 or less for the SHGC. This will help lighten the load of new window replacement costs.
The tax credit pertains to more than just windows. New furnaces and insulation to name a couple.
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:51 AM   #23
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Just thought I'd chime in as I've had vinyl replacement windows done twice in the last five years (two different homes). The first house was 11 windows, traditional double hung, slightly larger than average as the house is an old 1890 federal style. Total cost including install was 7k. It was through some roofing/siding/window/door company in the area. They weren't brand name windows, but were high-end as far as "basic" vinyl replacements go (double pane, low-e, metal support bars and brackets in the sashes, 1st generation vinyl, etc).

Used the same company on our current house, had 17 "normal" size double hungs and a large picture window replaced, total cost w/ install was 11k.

I've been very happy with the quality of the product and the speed and quality of the install job. I could have done the install myself, but it would have taken multiple days and required me to get a sheet metal bender for the flashing. Took the two install guys about half a day only. Worth it in my opinion.
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One reason I like DIY is that I do take more time
That's not allway a bad thing
My house had vinyl over wood shingles
So I removed the vinyl on one side of the house & did the windows. I installed new Andersen windows, not replacements
I stripped the old wood shingles off at the same time
Then I re-shingled that side, adding Tyvek
I found some ants in one corner - very small
But I sprayed the entire side w/insecticide

My front 3 equal sized windows changed to 1 large picture window in the middle flanked by 2 windows that open
It made an enormous difference in the room - our main room
This set of windows & the trim came out excellent
I installed a 5" shelf as part of the trim on the inside for small plants

In most cases my windows were large then the old windows
My openings were framed out for the pockets on each side that held the sash weights
So I stripped the molding off from the inside 1st to measure the opening. Then I ordered several windows at once

The table saw cost me maybe $300 (not the best)
I did buy a very nice mitre saw for $400 on sale & 10% off
That makes a huge difference in cutting angles
I needed a new sawzall (anyways) - $90
A new drill too, $80
I also bought a router & bits - $200

So total tools were around $1k
But all of the tools I have used for other projects
It's not like I bought anything specifically to install the windows

Any reason used to justify buying new tools is a good reason!


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