Originally Posted by digthisbigcrux
Sounds like this guy's "behind the 8-ball" getting new jobs to pay for previous jobs. Chances are this guy'll be running a forklift at Home Despot in a year and if you have any problems with your poptop, good luck backbilling or suing him.
Some contractors can pull out of this kind of spiral but chances are he won't.
I am sorry to say:
We are watching this happen right now with a certain 'Bozo'. He's horrible, doesn't know the first thing about proper construction - just sees green. He gets jobs by advertising. He uses a computer program to do his estimates (instead of experience). We have been doing different aspects of his jobs and rescuing him from irate home owners for several months. Not any more. He owes the electrician $9,500.00 for back jobs, and the electrician is a good friend of mine.
Last straw, was him taking a down payment for an addition. Problem is that he had a contract for this addition that he listed for about $80,000.00 (budget) > He wanted to hire us to do all the work. (At this point I did not know that he had a signed contract or accepted a payment)
1st meeting; Right off the bat, I politely told him that the layout he showed me was completely dimensionally wrong (too many rooms for the space) and that the budget was way off.
Never the less, I told him I would run the numbers for him (Costs).
I Spent 2 weeks compiling real quotes and real expenses (not computer ones) ..... I ran the numbers and came out with about $160,000.00 to complete all work. (2 levels, 4 bedrooms, 2 baths, -master bath and master bed, full utility upgrades, re-siding existing house and replace all windows - add 2 bays) Found out he hadn't even checked with the town, nor even considered that the utilities would need upgrading - (as well as many, many other things that should have been looked into or taken care of prior to a signed contract and taking a deposit)
The Problem with computer programs is that they don't realistically take everything into consideration.
I know that he can't give the money back because it seems very obvious that he spent it, and I know that the job can't be done for the budget that he gave....not to mention the pathetic mickey mouse penciled layouts that won't even fit into the sf. of the addition.
When I found out that he had already taken a large down payment...I was really disturbed by the whole thing....That was the last straw. (FWIW - there were other red flags)
I had a scheduled meeting with the home owner to help them revise his mickey mouse pencil drawings.
I met with the HO looked him in the eye, said what I needed to say (Without saying any names -I told him to watch out for inexperienced contractors) and told them that we (my company) would not be able to do the job - because it couldn't be done, and no experienced contractor would be able to do it, based on the 'parameters' that had been set. (We had no signed or written aggrements with anyone at that point).
We have severed all work relations with this incompetent goof...my conscience feels better. (The HO has our number if he needs more information .... 'down the road' - (like a list of other unhappy customers and people this guy owes money to)
I was really worried for the HO losing anymore
money. We'll see how this pans out.... The way it's going, I'll probably be reading about him in the papers before long....because he is still out there supposedly getting more 'work'...