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Old 12-31-2012, 02:11 PM   #16
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Pine? Oh yea.....that is what they frame houses with.......

Actually.....you would be surprised at what I get wood for. I was getting soft maple for $1.60 bd ft back in 2000 when I was building my kitchen cabinets.

Cherry is a great looking wood....but you need to know how to stain it right....all too often I see people ruining it with the wrong stains (just my opinion).

I have a great moulding shop nearby.....on average I pay about $0.80-1.25/ft for hw moulding. They also carry rough cut and finished on 3 sides hw planks...oak, cherry, alder, poplar and birch. Average price is $2-3.50/br ft.

I would love to be near a mill.....the down side....my garage is not big enough....because I have no doubt I would end up filling up my trailer in just one trip.

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I'll PM you---Do you have a planer and a table saw and a router?
mike, thanx for the info.

i have a cheap table saw and router. but i am not planning on shaping the boards = just cutting them to length and finishing.
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Without a surface planer you will need to have the wood planed at the mill---not a big expense--

Obviously ,to make the savings worth while,you would need to buy a large quantity or the gas used will eat up your savings----

If you enjoy woodworking---and want to take a nice ride to rural Michigan---do stop in at one of the many mills in southern Michigan----the one mill I mentioned--Hickory and Oak LLC in Delphi Michigan is worth looking in on---He has some really unusual wood in his 'oh,my god' rack---the man likes wood ---
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mike. i want to buy the wood is usable condition, perhaps a little sanding.
and i would not be buying enough to make a trip like that economical.
i like wood working. but i have sooo much on my plate, that i want this to be a "git-er-done" project.
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Try this place -
http:/www.heidlerhardwood.com
They're on Damen Ave. in Chicago.

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Owl Hardwood Lumber Company

Here is another possibility---they have an Oak Lawn location
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Owl Hardwood Lumber Company

Here is another possibility---they have an Oak Lawn location
BINGO ! that place is 1 mile from where i grew up. and i go that way 2 times a month, this sat will be one. so i will go check it out. i just hope the prices are reasonable.
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I buy a lot from there---check out their trim---you may find that exact style of casing in poplar---
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Consider poplar, if you can find it. Inexpensive, almost no grain, and it takes stain well.
I would recomment staying away from poplar as a stain grade wood. It has a tendency as it ages to develop black or purplish long streaks and grain patterns. What started out as a flawlessly clean piece can over time turn hideous, and I have never figured a way to predict which pieces will turn. Around here, the most commmon stained, non premium woods, are fir and pine. A lot of it is prone to having the huge"flame" grain patterns , but if you can pick through the supply over a few visits, you should be able to get enough pieces that fall in the "quarter sawn" category and avoid this problem. Both will produce better results if treated with a wood conditioner or a sealer coat of shellac before staining.
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I would recomment staying away from poplar as a stain grade wood. It has a tendency as it ages to develop black or purplish long streaks and grain patterns. What started out as a flawlessly clean piece can over time turn hideous, and I have never figured a way to predict which pieces will turn. Around here, the most commmon stained, non premium woods, are fir and pine. A lot of it is prone to having the huge"flame" grain patterns , but if you can pick through the supply over a few visits, you should be able to get enough pieces that fall in the "quarter sawn" category and avoid this problem. Both will produce better results if treated with a wood conditioner or a sealer coat of shellac before staining.
I know that color your talking about.....I avoid it by not using pieces (that will get stained) that show green....if you can find clear pieces (hard to do at HD), then they stain up 'ok'.

But then again, 99% of the time....if I'm using poplar....it's getting painted.
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Poplar is not pine. It stains OK especially if you use a wood conditioner. Minwax makes a pre-stain wood conditioner.
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i was at HD and saw their green poplar. but we didn't go to the MIL's as planned. so it will have to wait a lil while.
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HD and Lowe's are about the most expensive place there is to buy wood. I wood certainly shop around a lot before you buy. Poplar is a great wood to work with and to paint. Stain not so much but do-able. Go to the library and check out some books and you will find other woods in the same price range that better for stain.
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DDAWG---We are a Sunday drive from some nice lumber mills---I buy common cherry for less than you pay for pine----walnut in Wisconsin can be had for around $2.00 a bd foot---

Well worth a drive---last trip $600 got me nearly 300 bd feet of cherry---you are in a bad area for hardwoods----
Good gravy, that is a really good price. I was going to say you can stain birch lumber to look just like cherry, even a pro has trouble telling the difference. My experience staining Poplar, to get the best results spray stain it. JMHO
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i am NOT painting this wood. i hate painted wood. i just want a soft grain, as inexpensive as reasonably possible (once i start, i will be buying a lot), and easy to work with.

i have decided to wait this out for a little while. but lets still debate it.

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