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DIY Master 02-14-2011 03:08 PM

Vaulting Living room by removing bedroom?
 
Hello everyone!

Me and my wife have always enjoyed the look of a vaulted living room. Currently, there is an unused bedroom right over the living room. The walls of the living room line up exactly with the bedroom - so it seems to me, simply removing the bedroom floor would give us the vaulted look we were looking for. As much as I would love to start cutting floor joists out of the second story, I figure there would be a little more to it than that. So:

Does this seem possible without spending a TON of money on contractors? (As in, can I do the demo/dry wall/ other things?)

Will this structurally break my house?

Has any one done this?

I'll see if I can get some pictures a little later,

Thanks!

MBatson 02-14-2011 03:27 PM

I would seek the advise of a structural engineer.

Ron6519 02-14-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIY Master (Post 591103)
Hello everyone!

Me and my wife have always enjoyed the look of a vaulted living room. Currently, there is an unused bedroom right over the living room. The walls of the living room line up exactly with the bedroom - so it seems to me, simply removing the bedroom floor would give us the vaulted look we were looking for. As much as I would love to start cutting floor joists out of the second story, I figure there would be a little more to it than that. So:

Does this seem possible without spending a TON of money on contractors? (As in, can I do the demo/dry wall/ other things?)

Will this structurally break my house?

Has any one done this?

I'll see if I can get some pictures a little later,

Thanks!

As stated by Bat, this requires plans, permits and the ability to execute the plans. I have no knowledge of your structural framing abilities. Which are different from basement framing abilities.
You would need to know what to do, the sequence to do it in and the components to use to keep the house from collapse.
You'd need a plan and a contractor who would be willing to work with a homeowner to get an idea about cost.
Ron

Jackofall1 02-14-2011 04:08 PM

Edit - Welcome DIY Master, to the best DIY'r site on the web.

Will it structurally break you house, no, it will certainly devaluate your house by reducing the number of bedrooms.

And what plans have thought of for the area above the new ceiling, what sill that be utilized for.

I have not done it, in fact I thought about going the opposite way on one my houses, and closin off above the open foyer to create an added bedroom.

There are many things to consider though, just a few is there any heat ducts, plumbing, electrical running through the area. As far as structure I believe it would be a rather simple change as you are reducing the load not increasing.

That being said the first thing I would do is get your pencil, ruler and an 11 x 17 pad of 1/4 line paper and start by drawing up your proposal, then take it to a designer / engineer to have it reviewed, pull a permit and you are off to the races, post progress pics so we can all share in your project.

Mark

Joe Carola 02-14-2011 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIY Master (Post 591103)
Hello everyone!

Me and my wife have always enjoyed the look of a vaulted living room. Currently, there is an unused bedroom right over the living room. The walls of the living room line up exactly with the bedroom - so it seems to me, simply removing the bedroom floor would give us the vaulted look we were looking for. As much as I would love to start cutting floor joists out of the second story, I figure there would be a little more to it than that. So:

Does this seem possible without spending a TON of money on contractors? (As in, can I do the demo/dry wall/ other things?)

Will this structurally break my house?

Has any one done this?

I'll see if I can get some pictures a little later,

Thanks!

Anything can be done when it comes to your house. What you want to do is done alot. I have done it. It HAS to be designed by an architect or engineer. Your first floor walls are probably framed with precut studs and two top plates. Your floor joists sit on top of these plates. You can't just cut the joists and box out because you will have a hinge point at the plate-line.

The wall needs to be structurally modified to span two stories. It's not the same as a balloon framed wall going from the first floor to the second floor. You will get all your answers from an architect or engineer for this. This is something you cannot do yourself without an experienced framer or contractor.

It's a great idea and something that can be done.

Ron6519 02-14-2011 05:46 PM

Just realize that losing a bedroom will reduce the houses value. If this could be an issue, speak to a local realestate agent to see what the impact will be.
Ron


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