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Old 09-23-2012, 08:43 PM   #16
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I can only speak based on the EPA laws and Georgia laws I had to study some years back to hold a couple of certain licenses: NO WAY can you apply any hydrocarbon/petroleum based product on soil/land/property whether it is public, municipally owned, or even your very own property. The very second you apply any hydrocarbon/petroleum based product on your property you will immediately fall under a Federal "Cradle-to-Grave Act", which means you created this problem and it will be yours to correct forever. Ask me how many hours I spent filling out papers for my former employer for accidental spills on our concrete pads behind the plant. As far as using "used oils", or any used petro products to start fires with: Again speaking from what I learned in Georgia--that is also a "NO-NO". But--from the "Believe It Or Not" column: Used cooking grease does not fit into any of these categories. This would be a "Natural" product, not man-made. Used french-fry grease helps make a huge bonfire.

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Anybody know how or where one can get 4-5 gallons of oil to burn with and keep dust down. ??????? bob s

I still cannot figure out why you or anyone wants used oil to burn.
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I’ve seen oil applied to gravel roads for dust control for ever. The community that stands out to me (for the sake of this conversation) is one that’s right on the river and it’s the county dumping the oil, and it‘s a black mess to drive on for a day or two.

Check with your town, county and/or state to see what’s allowed.


messy!!but sure keeps dust down in mich.they won't allow it anymore. I primarily want to burn stuff with it brush ,cardboard etc with this oil kerosene flashes quick and doesn't probuce a good steady hot flame.As we all know its really gotten pricey in our state. bob thanks
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I still cannot figure out why you or anyone wants used oil to burn.
Many shops, primarily heavy equipment repair places use furnaces for heating their work areas with used oil furnaces. They get a lot of it, engine oil change on a farm tractor will be 5 gallons or so and a hydralic fluid change can be 50 or so gallons.

FWIW another thing they used to do with it is dump it on ponds and lakes to keep mosquitos down.

Boils down to what Thurman said tho, you dump it, you own it.
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I can only speak based on the EPA laws and Georgia laws I had to study some years back to hold a couple of certain licenses: NO WAY can you apply any hydrocarbon/petroleum based product on soil/land/property whether it is public, municipally owned, or even your very own property. The very second you apply any hydrocarbon/petroleum based product on your property you will immediately fall under a Federal "Cradle-to-Grave Act", which means you created this problem and it will be yours to correct forever. Ask me how many hours I spent filling out papers for my former employer for accidental spills on our concrete pads behind the plant. As far as using "used oils", or any used petro products to start fires with: Again speaking from what I learned in Georgia--that is also a "NO-NO". But--from the "Believe It Or Not" column: Used cooking grease does not fit into any of these categories. This would be a "Natural" product, not man-made. Used french-fry grease helps make a huge bonfire.

Iget this every so often been pouring out i'll save it from now on. bob thank you
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"Makes it hard on us older guys.We used oil for roads and burning"
Used to do lots of stuff, asbestos blown in insulation, coal mining with burning candles,without even a helmet, scattering arsenic pellets for rodent control. Amazing that so many of us got to be "older guys."

" to burn stuff with it" What's that bsa stand for? None of my Scouts make it past Tenderfoot unless they can start a fire with three matches and keep it going without any accelerants. And is brush and trash burning allowed in your area? Is Michigan unaware of all recent wildfires?

The "oil" used on roads is not motor oil, but a mixture of petroleum products (tar) binders and resins that is " a black mess to drive on for a day or two" but then set up. The county should not be "dumping" the oil, but spraying a calculated amount at proper pressure and distance, and there should be barricades to prevent it spreading until it sets.

Used crankcase oil contains several heavy metals and other compounds not found in fresh oil. Burning it releases them into air. Places that use it as fuel or incinerate it are supposed to have smoke scrubbers, after burners, stills etc. Us "older guys" can remember articles in Popular Mechanics about making logs from newspapers and used oil and burning them in home fire places. "Gather round the fire kids" And this was when news paper ink contained lead.

" dump it on ponds and lakes to keep mosquitos down." Well on puddles and such, not lakes, fishermen be up in arms. If fish in water they eat larvae, no oil, in fact fish are added to puddles instead of oil. Self applying, even if puddle drys up, next rain brings fish from deeper holes. Here in Dallas area with West Nile "rampant", mosquito fish are main treatment. If oil is used it is vegetable based.

"Used cooking grease... "Natural" product." Spread that on your road and flies will be on it like EPA agents on a felonious oil dumper. ( How ya like that, Steven?) Fluttering of wings will stir up dust, buzzing keep you awake. Road killed varmints attracted to smell may keep down dust.

" been pouring out" Pouring what out and where? Apparently you don't change your own oil. Some localities have collection centers for used oil, most quick oil change places will take your used oil. If Veggie oil, your not supposed to dump that either. Jiffy lube don't take it, don't pour down drain. Seal in jar or can, put in garbage. A few fast food paces will let you pour used oil in their holding tank, the folks who are paid or pay to collect it will take yours if you find out who and where they are. They filter it and sell it as fuel and chemical source.

As Thurman sez, "Used french-fry grease helps make a huge bonfire. " If allowed and you need it to get fire going. It not only makes a bon fire. Nowadays, instead of oil/paper log articles, we have Fuel Your Car With French Fries" articles. Collection, filtering tank in garage, simple modifications to car and off you economically go. Chased by every stray dog and McDonald addict from miles around. I've smelled such engines running and exhaust really does smell like french fries. You have to change ketchup and filter every 50,000 miles or consult your owners menu.
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Many shops, primarily heavy equipment repair places use furnaces for heating their work areas with used oil furnaces. They get a lot of it, engine oil change on a farm tractor will be 5 gallons or so and a hydralic fluid change can be 50 or so gallons.

FWIW another thing they used to do with it is dump it on ponds and lakes to keep mosquitos down.

Boils down to what Thurman said tho, you dump it, you own it.

Yea, I knew that. My local oil change place does that but I could not figure out why the OP wanted it for, still don't know.
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Sorry guys....but I think he is trolling....
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Sorry guys....but I think he is trolling....
I really don't think so! I grew up in the country on a farm and we always used the waste water oil on brush piles to get them to burn hot so everything burned up. We also used oil on gravel/dirt driveways to keep dust down. People who grew up in the city probably laugh at it but it's certainly been done for a long time and probably still is in many places!
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Msradell, oh, I know it was done, and is still done, when nobody's lookin'. I can remember standing by the fence watching the oil truck go ny, my Grandmother remembered the foot prints we left behind. But it was and is used 'cause it was at hand. Findin' oil isn't hard on most country places. He claims to have more than one road on his place, so it must be of considerable size, with several pieces of machinery. At least an oil spreader.

He just came here seeing if he could get a rize out of us by asking for used oil. Notice that in mid-stream when every one jumped on him for spreading it, he jumped over to using it to start fires?

It's just not sporting, trolling for suckers when we're all ensnared in the internet already.

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