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Old 09-08-2013, 01:10 PM   #1
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Unknown peice of hardware needed for hanging something off railing. Any ideas?


I'm looking a piece of hardware I can use to hang something off a patio railing. Not sure what to even search for so any help would be appreciated.

Here's what my patio railing looks like:



This is what I will be hanging off the railing (without the base):




This screen will be about 50 pounds total weight.

My railing has some supports that pop out about 8 inches at the bottom of the railing so the piece of hardware I use will need to extend out at least 8 inches from my railing.

After doing some searching, I came across this:


But...it is for using over a door to hang clothes so I doubt it will support the weight of the screen I need to mount.


Does anyone have any ideas of something I can use on my railing that will allow me to hang a 50 pound theater screen (at least 8 inches away from the railing itself)?


Thanks in advance for any help!

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Go to the electrical section of the store and ask to see 'unistrut' and beam hangers---

If you have a Fasenal dealer in your area check with them--

These types of products are used to hang things from the steel structure of a building--most use threaded rod to make extensions.

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How would zip ties allow me to hang the screen 8+ inches out and away from the railing? Am I missing something simple?
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I went into Home Depot and asked about unistruts and beam hangers. They guy wasn't sure, but showed me some basic beams that didn't look like they would work by themselves. These beams were also too big for what I was looking for. They were between 4 feet and 10 feet.

I just need something that will allow me to hang the screen about 1 foot away from the railing.

Anyone else have any suggestions for something simple that might work well for this?


Thanks!


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If you explain a bit more in detail what you are trying to accomplish, others may have some ideas of how to get where you want to go.

First, can we assume this is for an outdoor theater?
Do you want this temporary? In other words, do you want to be able to easily take it down when not in use?
I also assume this is going on a balcony or second story railing.
Have you considered how you are going to get it into place?

I would think along the lines of a wooden framework of some sort (maybe a series of several smaller ones)that would sit on the tile and just tie to the railing. This would transfer at least some of the weight to the ground, rather than pulling on the rail.

My biggest concern is any breeze is gonna want to tear this right off your wall.
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If the frame around the screen is attached as it looks like, you could possibly use metal closet shelf and pole brackets fastened to the rail with screws or clamps. The frame should go in where the closet pole goes, acting like a hook.
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Find a local metal fabricator and have the make something for you. Get it powder coated so the finish holds up.

I second the notion of being careful about the swinging weight and tension it might put on the railing. Should the wind get ahold of it you don't it to yank the railing out and risk seriously injuring the kids sitting in the front row, right?
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If you explain a bit more in detail what you are trying to accomplish, others may have some ideas of how to get where you want to go.

First, can we assume this is for an outdoor theater?
Do you want this temporary? In other words, do you want to be able to easily take it down when not in use?
I also assume this is going on a balcony or second story railing.
Have you considered how you are going to get it into place?

I would think along the lines of a wooden framework of some sort (maybe a series of several smaller ones)that would sit on the tile and just tie to the railing. This would transfer at least some of the weight to the ground, rather than pulling on the rail.

My biggest concern is any breeze is gonna want to tear this right off your wall.

Thanks guys!

Yes, this is for an outdoor theater setup. What I would like to hang from the balcony railing is the screen the movie will be shown on. The screen itself will be about 50 pounds and will be anchored by bungee cords to a fence down below (see pic of yard). So I'm hoping the wind won't be a big factor as it should be supported at the top and bottom, and the wind, if any, will only be pushing the screen into the balcony.

This will be temporary as I will only set this up when we want to have a movie night. I also don't want any permanent fixtures, or holes after taking the screen down.

The screen frame will be made of 1" metal EMT conduit pipe. There will be some space between the screen material and the metal piping. The screen material attaches to the frame by using 6" ball bungees. My idea is to use the space between the screen material and the frame to use to hang the screen.

That is why something like this might work well if it was stronger and could easily attach to the railing:


Here's a picture of the area:


It's hard to tell from the picture, but the two small black brackets near the center of the railing are the brackets that stick out about 8 inches from the bottom of the railing. This is why I need something that extends at least 8 inches away from the railing for me to hang the screen on.



Do you guys know of something similar to the hook pictured above that would mount easily to the railing and hold the weight of a 50 pound screen?

Thanks again for the help guys!

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I'm thinking your door clothes hanger idea would work just fine. My wife could put 50 pounds of clothes on one of those in a heart beat. Just use 6 or 8 and cut the pounds to 6 or 8 lbs. each.
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I was a millwright and hung everything from exit signs to 5000 pound hoppers---

Google Unistrut and see what they have----I guarantee that something simple and strong will be available from that company---

If that fails---a local fabrication shop could weld up something.

Wind is the big concern---so that better be secured well---that is a sail---
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you need an L bracket shape with a hooked turn at the bottom of the long part of the L. hook that to the bottom of the rail lean it out so it flushes up against the rail structure and the short part of the L is that 8" so it hangs out towards the crowd
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What do the 2 brackets that already protrude from the railing look like? Could you possibly use something hanging from them to hang the frame from? What it hangs from doesn't need to be in the corners of it, just somewhere across the top.
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Y'know, you might be able to get away with using those plastic hangers. But perhaps consider threading a PVC pipe between them, and through-bolt the hangers to it. That'd keep them spaced consistently and add a little bit of rigidity.

There are also metal version of that sort of thing:
http://www.amazon.com/INTERDESIGN-Or.../dp/B00004XSFM


Not sure about using metal conduit for the rest of it, as that's heavier than you might think.
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Wind is really going to effect that screen.

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