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Old 05-03-2009, 09:26 AM   #121
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Why to go. Wood is superrior to any other man made product anyone could name. The problem is most people including professionals dont install wood corectly. People just startint looking around do you see houses that are more than 100 years old, what are they made of? -Wood- If you protect the end grain you will have a WOOD deck that will last you a lifetime with a little maintance. By the way it wont look like wood it will be wood. Composites--just because they are new dosent make them better.WOOD THE ONLY WAY.

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Old 05-04-2009, 11:57 PM   #122
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I have used Choice Deck from Lowes. It is a dark grey when installed and bleaches out to a beautiful gray. There are no spots and I am totally satisfied with the product. Use the special screws that won't mushroom in plastic. I also found you don't have to screw this every 16 inches. Also, I bought this in two different batches and both were great. You wont be disappointed.
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I'm considering replacing a wooden deck with Choice Decking sold at Lowe's. It's very expensive! Does anyone have any comments of this composite decking brand? It comes with a limited lifetime warranty.
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"Limited lifetime warranty"

Do they cover labor?
Pro-rated by years in use?
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:51 PM   #125
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ChoiceDek Warranty; http://aertinc.com/warranty.pd
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WOOD THE ONLY WAY.
What warranty do you get with wood?

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What warranty do you get with wood?

The warranty of decades of prior use
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The warranty of decades of prior use
How do I claim on that when I don't gap my planks or keep up on the maintenance?
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Old 05-06-2009, 11:04 AM   #129
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If you are too stupid to maintain a deck then you shouldn't have one. If you don't know how to build one then don't. Trex & others are advertised as maintenance free, they are not.
My deck was built in 2007 & I haven't had to do a thing to it
I've taken apart 10-15 year old decks & re-used the wood

My last house I sanded & restained the deck that was in place for 18 years. It still looked good after 25 years when I sold the house
It's now 30 years old & still there
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My back deck is Mahogany. It is beautiful but It has to be powerwashed and treated with Cabots Austrailian Timber Oil to maintain it's beauty and condition. The Choice Deck has been down three years now and looks BETTER than the day it was installed. Remember I mentioned it is a rather ugly gray in the store but actually weathers to a beautifully natural Cape Cod grey. The 5/4 stock is a little less than $2.00 a foot if I remember, but I don't think I will have to replace it in my lifetime. (I'm seventy and figure I ought to last to 85 or so! LOL
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chalk_hill If you DON'T build the deck right it won't last, and you void the warrenty. If you get treated lumber you get a lifetime warranty. BUT like I will always say Seal the end grain or it will rot...I have been in construction a long time and have done many restoration and remodel projects and it is amazing hoe long wood last when used and installed properly. In the town where I live I see houses every day that are 150 years old and look great. They ARE MADE OF WOOD. There is NO such thing as MANTANCE FREE. Composit materials are playing on the "green building idea". Wait isn't plastic a petroluim based product. Wood come from trees, that grow. We can manage tree clearing by replanting, but we can't reoil the earth. WOOD is the best product, composit if the new in thing. Hope you understand my point. I don't mean to hurt anyones feelings, these are just my thoughs.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:32 PM   #132
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We built our dock with Trex saddle about 2 years ago now.
There are a few black spots.
None of it is decomposing at all (thank goodness).
We didn't use pressure treated wood because my wife didn't want her son sitting and rolling around on all those chemicals, and then on splinters.
PVC is an environmental nightmare--look into it.
Overall we love our dock.
I can only hope our luck holds up.
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Old 05-06-2009, 08:44 PM   #133
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Texas; no hurt feelings. I love wood and for many purposes there is no satisfactory substitute. But decking is not one of those purposes. My post was somewhat tongue-in-cheek since "wood" is not a manufactured product it does not come with any explicit post-installation warranty, and certainly your chances of getting a lumber mill to build you a new deck are slim. I don't think any composite decks are advertised as "maintenance free". "Low maintenance" maybe, and compared with wood they are indeed low maintenance. Hence the consumer interest. Many composite decks have a high recycled content - using "plastic" that has already been used once (obviously this is NOT the case with virgin vinyl) and wood flour that is waste-product from other processes. This is a big step up from plundering tropical rain forests for old-growth wood that on average makes its way to a landfill within 15 years, and YES that recycled content makes it "green". Using 100 yr old lumber for decks that last 15 years is obviously not sustainable. Yes, there is some sustainably harvested deck lumber, but the vast majority is not. And yes, IF wood decks are dutifully maintained they CAN last a very long time. TYPICALLY that is not the case.
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chalk_hill If you DON'T build the deck right it won't last, and you void the warrenty. If you get treated lumber you get a lifetime warranty. BUT like I will always say Seal the end grain or it will rot...I have been in construction a long time and have done many restoration and remodel projects and it is amazing hoe long wood last when used and installed properly. In the town where I live I see houses every day that are 150 years old and look great. They ARE MADE OF WOOD. There is NO such thing as MANTANCE FREE. Composit materials are playing on the "green building idea". Wait isn't plastic a petroluim based product. Wood come from trees, that grow. We can manage tree clearing by replanting, but we can't reoil the earth. WOOD is the best product, composit if the new in thing. Hope you understand my point. I don't mean to hurt anyones feelings, these are just my thoughs.
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Chalk Hill your right, I agree about your green points. My problem is when people use wood they dont install it right and dont take of it latter.

Vaviaco dont worry about all those chemicals. After the cutting is done and the lumber has dryed you will come into contact with more chemicles sitting in your car driving to work or taking kids to school. And I would wonder what the Trex off gasses?? Any one know?? Maybe one more reason I dont like composit. Glad your deck is doing well. Just like anything else some good some bad and normaly we here the most about the bad.
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In the Forest Products Journal. Scientist findings on Composite decking tested can and does rot if they’re not treated with a preservative

To improve composite decking, recently many Composites now boast that they are using preservatives on the surface or in the material to protect the deck board from rotting. Which means it contains some kind of chemical now.

For instance,composite decking boards are weaker than wood

Because Composites will fade some in time, are subject to mold and susceptible to stains. Cleaning and a mold remover can help, but if not attended to you end up with an ugly looking deck. To bring back these decks to pristine appearance may require future painting of the deck
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