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kgagnon7 08-02-2012 07:26 AM

Top plate not where it should be for new beam
 
I'm putting in a beam in my living room but top plate is actually upstairs in bedroom about foot from floor. How would I prepare for the new beam? Do I build a plate down to where it should be? How? Thank you in advance.

joecaption 08-02-2012 07:31 AM

I can not even figure out what it is your asking.
Why are you adding a beam?

A top plate is what's used at the top of a wall that the studs get nail to form the wall with a bottom plate at the bottom so no clue what you measuring to come up with that short measurement where the top plate is.

Got a picture?

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 07:31 AM

So basically I can flash light up the wall to second floor. Its a 2x4 wall. The top plate that is actually upstairs in room wall is a double stacked 2x4's plate. I am building a beam of 5 2x6 sandwich with OSB between them.

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 07:35 AM

The beam is going middle of living room spanning across ceiling joists. But like i'm saying at the end in wall there is no plate. Its like studs are 10' from living room floor bottom plate to upstairs bedroom. It's a 8' ceiling height. Is this somewhat more clear?

joecaption 08-02-2012 07:37 AM

Is this a really old house? If so it may have ballon framing.

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 07:38 AM

Two story and basement. I have a sag in ceiling and upstairs floor trying to straighten. I will try putting pictures after work. Thanks for your time.

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 07:40 AM

Yes old house and balloon framing sounds right. Not sure. Think was built 1940's but possible older as there are additions not built like this and previous owners could a changed dates.

joecaption 08-02-2012 07:57 AM

Plaster and lath walls?

In most cases the wall needs to be opened up and jack studs installed that sit on the bottom plate, which in your case it may be something like a 4 X 6 to support the beam.

Depending on how much demo work your willing to do there's several differant way to fix this problum.
It would be best though to call in an engineer on this one so it's fixed right the first time.

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 08:01 AM

Could it work to tie top plate with several 2x4 together width of beam down to another 2x4 across where beam will be than same thing below beam. ?

kgagnon7 08-02-2012 10:33 AM

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kgagnon7 08-02-2012 10:34 AM

Not the best photo will post others.

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kgagnon7 08-02-2012 05:02 PM

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Here is another photo. It looks a bit messed up just cause there was an old window frame hidden. You get the idea no top plate on other side of those planks.

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kgagnon7 08-04-2012 05:50 AM

So i'm told by a contractor I don't need a top plate. The 2x6 joist that runs parallel to wall and actually nailed to wall is enough.


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