Tiling My Kitchen Backsplash Over Existing Paint - Any Special Prep?

WoodySoCo · 07-16-2011, 10:43 AM

Area is already primed and painted with low grade contractor products.

Should I prime with something moisture resistant before tiling the backsplash?

Thanks,
Jon

**oh'mike** · 07-16-2011, 10:49 AM

Not needed----if the paint is glossy,scuff sand it first--otherwise just do a nice layout and start tiling.

sdsester · 07-16-2011, 01:48 PM

Hugh?

Tile over potentially scruffed up semi-gloss oil or latex without thinking twice about it? Praying tile will stick?

Just lick the tiles to hold them or chew lots of gum and stick it to the corners if you have a mesh strip holding squares together. I would not worry for a moment using anything else to stick to substandard paint products that may or may not be sticking to anything, like a tile backing, in the first place.

Plunk em up and mortar.

Why are we talking about tiling over a painted surface hoping the adhesion layer of the stuff is going to hold? Makes me scratch my head. Perhaps no others. Paint it or tile it. Cannot do both well from my experience or as you change your mind?

**oh'mike** · 07-16-2011, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsester

Hugh?

Tile over potentially scruffed up semi-gloss oil or latex without thinking twice about it? Praying tile will stick?

Just lick the tiles to hold them or chew lots of gum and stick it to the corners if you have a mesh strip holding squares together. I would not worry for a moment using anything else to stick to substandard paint products that may or may not be sticking to anything, like a tile backing, in the first place.

Plunk em up and mortar.

Why are we talking about tiling over a painted surface hoping the adhesion layer of the stuff is going to hold? Makes me scratch my head. Perhaps no others. Paint it or tile it. Cannot do both well from my experience or as you change your mind?

What's up----people come here for answers---If I gave out poor advice
Please correct it.

But this gibberish is not helpful---only confusing.

Bud Cline · 07-16-2011, 05:22 PM

I'm not sure what any of that means either. That's a surprise considering the source is often spot-on. Maybe a little chemical experimentation going on there today?

And WHO is Hugh?

**oh'mike** · 07-16-2011, 06:13 PM

I was confused,too. He's one of my favorite posters---usually a well spring of fine information.

Sdsester---hope you're feeling all right.---Mike---

Ron6519 · 07-16-2011, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsester

Hugh?

Tile over potentially scruffed up semi-gloss oil or latex without thinking twice about it? Praying tile will stick?

Just lick the tiles to hold them or chew lots of gum and stick it to the corners if you have a mesh strip holding squares together. I would not worry for a moment using anything else to stick to substandard paint products that may or may not be sticking to anything, like a tile backing, in the first place.

Plunk em up and mortar.

Why are we talking about tiling over a painted surface hoping the adhesion layer of the stuff is going to hold? Makes me scratch my head. Perhaps no others. Paint it or tile it. Cannot do both well from my experience or as you change your mind?

Send me whatever you've been smoking.
If it was a stroke, you're on your own.

DrHicks · 07-16-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodySoCo

Area is already primed and painted with low grade contractor products.

Should I prime with something moisture resistant before tiling the backsplash?

Thanks,
Jon

Mehhh... Not a big deal. As Mike said, lightly sand the scuff the paint. Thinset. Tile. Grout.

Get the right thinset - NOT the premixed kind that comes in the bucket.

Just take your time and be careful. You'll do just fine.

WoodySoCo · 07-19-2011, 07:24 AM

Thanks guys.

Will run some 80 grit over it and hope I find the 'right' kind of thinset.

**oh'mike** · 07-19-2011, 07:59 AM

Any good modified thinset---I prefer white myself but that's just a personal preference.

DrHicks · 07-19-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike

Any good modified thinset---I prefer white myself but that's just a personal preference.

How thin/thick do you mix your thinset? I seem to have the best luck when it's right between the consistency of pudding and peanut butter.

**oh'mike** · 07-19-2011, 08:07 AM

That's a tough one to answer----I know the sound of my mixer--the resistance as it turns and how easily it comes off the paddle---

Somewhere between pudding and peanut butter----(I always keep a bowl of each next to the mixer

)

DrHicks · 07-19-2011, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike

That's a tough one to answer----I know the sound of my mixer--the resistance as it turns and how easily it comes off the paddle---

Somewhere between pudding and peanut butter----(I always keep a bowl of each next to the mixer

)

I forgot to mention that it has to be CHOCOLATE pudding. Any other kind won't work.

**oh'mike** · 07-19-2011, 08:46 AM

I'm coming to your next tile job.----Chocolate,MMMMmmmmmm.

DrHicks · 07-19-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oh'mike

I'm coming to your next tile job.----Chocolate,MMMMmmmmmm.

Just how old IS this pudding? It's gray - and it takes like crap!

07-16-2011, 10:43 AM	#1
WoodySoCo Newbie Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 26	Tiling My Kitchen Backsplash Over Existing Paint - Any Special Prep? Area is already primed and painted with low grade contractor products. Should I prime with something moisture resistant before tiling the backsplash? Thanks, Jon

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sdsester Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 8,919	Tiling My Kitchen Backsplash Over Existing Paint - Any Special Prep? Hugh?Tile over potentially scruffed up semi-gloss oil or latex without thinking twice about it? Praying tile will stick? Just lick the tiles to hold them or chew lots of gum and stick it to the corners if you have a mesh strip holding squares together. I would not worry for a moment using anything else to stick to substandard paint products that may or may not be sticking to anything, like a tile backing, in the first place.Plunk em up and mortar. Why are we talking about tiling over a painted surface hoping the adhesion layer of the stuff is going to hold? Makes me scratch my head. Perhaps no others. Paint it or tile it. Cannot do both well from my experience or as you change your mind? Last edited by sdsester; 07-16-2011 at 02:48 PM.

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Bud Cline Tileguy Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,104	Tiling My Kitchen Backsplash Over Existing Paint - Any Special Prep? I'm not sure what any of that means either. That's a surprise considering the source is often spot-on. Maybe a little chemical experimentation going on there today? And WHO is Hugh?

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oh'mike Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kane county,Illinois Posts: 16,752	Tiling My Kitchen Backsplash Over Existing Paint - Any Special Prep? I was confused,too. He's one of my favorite posters---usually a well spring of fine information. Sdsester---hope you're feeling all right.---Mike--- __________________ New members: Adding your location to your profile helps in many ways.--M--

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