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Old 09-29-2014, 03:19 PM   #1
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Just moved into this house. I live on a five acre lot which is on Hydric Soil. It has a well and a septic tank. The sump pump goes off every 25 to 27 second, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The flow comes from a 4 inch Corex drain pipe. The water is clear. There is a sump pump backup system, as well as another sump pump pit for excess water flow. Do not know if there is a French drain around the perimeter of the house. Once the water is ejected from both sumps, it (supposedly) flows into a drain catch basin (approximately 100 feet away from house). Question: How do I find out where is this water coming from so that I can stop or redirect the flow away from the sump?

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The pump eject pipe could be broken near the house and you just pumping the water around in a circle.

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There could be a spring under the house seen that before, Or the basement was installed when it was dry and the water table rose and now the floor is below the table. Seen both happen, Do you have a water leak, well or city water
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Could you please explain a little further? The sump ejects it outside to another 4 inch plastic pipe which then (supposedly) flows to a drain field to the east of my property approximately 200 feet. Thank you for responding. Look forward to further thoughts.
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What type foundation?
Check valve on the discharge line on the sump? Sure it's working?
How deep is your sump pit?
No French drain outside?
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I have a well and septic. If it is a spring, what can be done to stop the sump pump from going off twice every minute?
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It is a poured concrete foundation.
There is a check valve on both discharge lines on the sump.
Yes they are both working
Sump is three feet deep
Not sure about the French Drain.

The sump and sump pit do not appear to be the issue. It is the flow of water into the sump and it will not stop. Any ideas?
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There might not be anything you can do about the water. You could try adjusting the float. The water level might stabilize at a level that is acceptable and only to be pumped when it rises more.
Or you could make the pit larger and separate the start stop floats so the pump runs less often.
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You need to determine the groundwater level outside the house. If the level is above the top of the sump pump, then water will flow continuously into the sump pit. The best way to determine groundwater elevation is by installing a couple of piezometers outside. A piezometer is nothing more than an open pipe driven below groundwater level, you measure the elevation of the water in the pipes after the level stabilizes, and that is the groundwater elevation.

I don't know exactly what you mean by hydric soil, but regardless of soil type, installing a few piezometers and measuring groundwater elevation will tell you which way the groundwater flows (always from higher to lower elevation). Do not confuse groundwater elevation with depth to groundwater, you need to measure the elevation referenced to a fixed point, such as a foundation corner.

You may be able to trace the water flow from your sump pit by using dye. It is essential that the groundwater be pumped far away from your house, preferably to a stream, ditch or storm drain, so the water does not recirculate back to your sump pump.
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Daniel, Hydric soil is soil which is permanently or seasonally saturated by water, resulting in anaerobic conditions, as found in wetlands. I only mentioned it because I thought it might be a factor in determining the root cause of the water. Excellent idea on the piezometer. I will work on purchasing and installing as well as the dye. Will keep you posted. Appreciate the idea. Also, would a waterproof camera help me find the source? Please explain the difference between groundwater elevation and depth to groundwater. Thank you
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Ground water elevation would the height of the ground water, the top.
Depth of ground water would be the bottom.
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You might try unplugging the pump and see where the water level stops rising---

hopefully it will stop before the floor floods---is so--reset the floats on the pump--
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Do you have one way valves on the outflow side of your pumps? If you don't have them or they have quit working when the pump shuts off all the water in the line returns to the pit. Also when the water returns to the pit it will fill the incoming line so it looks like it's flowing really fast.

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