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wakko 08-05-2011 08:07 AM

Replacing Patio door for French Door - is this lots of work?
 
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Looking to replace a patio door with french doors. have had a couple contractors come and a salesman. an independent contractor came by and said he would not take the job as this was too much work for himself. Stating he'd have to take out the brick the iron railing and redo all the concrete.. Champion windows came by gave me a quote of almost 3k. Asked him about the trouble of the door he said it's no problem. we can put in any door, but he's a salesman of course he'll say anything. Now i'm unsure if its really worth it as i heard champion products were ok for the premium they charge and wondering if they'd upcharge more for more work. another contractor came by and said this was a big job reiterating the problems/hassle the 1st contractor stated. waiting for his quote as well. Also said the big box stores would not touch this job.

Now the question is for any contractors or people that know this stuff, is it really a difficult job and what would you price an install and french door (with blinds) at?

Sorry pictures attached, thought the hyperlinks would work.

kwikfishron 08-05-2011 08:12 AM

Post a picture please. :)

http://www.diychatroom.com/f19/how-a...to-post-12559/

kwikfishron 08-05-2011 08:28 AM

It’s a tricky install but can be done without disturbing the brick.

Why is that railing like that?

How about a picture of the bottom of the door showing and what the railing is mounted to.

wakko 08-05-2011 08:33 AM

sorry i'm not at home and should have taken a bigger picture. the sliding glass door led to a railing mounted to a concrete walkway that had steps. the concrete doesn't go all the way to the other side of the other part of the sliding door, so eventually i think we'll fix that portion or just get a garden view door.

kwikfishron 08-05-2011 08:56 AM

First you need to decide exactly what it is you want to do. If you’re going to extend the walkway then you should consider doing it all as one project. Either way I can see this being done without destroying the brick.

As far as contractors go forget the box stores and any company that sends you a ten point salesman.

Go to your local lumber yards contractors desk with your pictures and ask for referrals.

wakko 08-05-2011 09:01 AM

the door is a standard 71-72 door, do you have a general range of what the price would be? Just want to make sure i'm not getting ripped off.

also the salesman at champion said don't get fiberglass because it expands too much because of the TX cold and TX heat and don't listen to others that try to sale you on fiberglass. reading about fiberglass it sounded like the opposite, is that true?

kwikfishron 08-05-2011 09:11 AM

No way to guess on price, that can vary greatly from one region to the next and sometimes from one side of town to the other but your $3000 bid didn’t shock me though. This isn’t a typical install and you don’t want the wrong contractor anywhere near this one.

Ron6519 08-05-2011 09:22 AM

Andersen french doors can run $2500. just for the door, so $3k wouldn't be out of line for a quality door.
There is no such thing as a standard 71-72 inch door. If you want detailed help it would help if you provided detailed information.
A standard door would be 6'8" x 6'0". There are other standard sizes.
Provide the opening you have, side to side and sill to steel lintel.
It would also help if you stated what quality door you were interested in.
Plastic doors have a size swing with temperature, never had an issue with fiberglass in NY.

wakko 08-05-2011 09:53 AM

door size is 71" x 79 1/2" jamb size is 4 9/16"

this was from the champion dealer, but the question is, is champion quality? alot of the reviews i've read think champion is ok.

The contractor that i'm waiting for a quote for said he uses masonite doors. I haven't heard too much about them, but the website looked nice.

I'm looking for a mid-quality door. something with low-e glass and hoping the install and door would be around 1.5k-2k.

12penny 08-05-2011 10:33 AM

I just checked Homers website. They have JeldWen and Masonite french doors, with the blinds between the glass, for +/- $500.

Not saying I'd buy one, and I'd never quote one to a customer, but for those that are trying to improve their homes on a short budget these doors can be very attractive.

My suggestion would be to wait a little. Existing door looks okay, not damaged, no moisture between the glass, etc. Save the money and buy a good door 6 months or a year down the line. Your money will be much better spent.

And dont hire the first guy, I think that'll come right out.

CoconutPete 08-05-2011 12:05 PM

I ended up going w/ a sliding door in my house because of various reasons, but when I was shopping for both sliding and french doors I was blown away when I realized you literally can buy a prehung set of french doors at Lowe's for $350 and then there's the $3,500 Andersen version. $350 to $3500 - that's a crazy range!

breal 10-28-2011 07:27 AM

Did you end up getting the door in?

DrHicks 10-28-2011 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 12penny (Post 700853)
I just checked Homers website. They have JeldWen and Masonite french doors, with the blinds between the glass, for +/- $500.

Not saying I'd buy one, and I'd never quote one to a customer, but for those that are trying to improve their homes on a short budget these doors can be very attractive.

And dont hire the first guy, I think that'll come right out.

I bought the JeldWen door from Homey's (yeah, yeah, yeah...) a couple years ago, on sale for about $550. It has the in-glass mini-blinds in both doors. Installed it myself in a rental house, replacing a HORRIBLE sliding patio door (kept out winter weather about as well as woven wire would).

The installation was kind of a pain in the butt, but only because I was muscling it in by myself. It has been an ENORMOUS improvement, with which I've been very satisfied.

wakko 10-28-2011 07:56 AM

I did not end up getting the door. our ac has been on the fritz so i'm replacing that first.

breal 10-28-2011 09:15 AM

That's too bad. Our a/c was on the fritz this summer. Turns out it was the blower motor. A local contractor wanted $700 to replace it. I found a new replacement motor and did it myself for $130!


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