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ZeroTX 10-20-2008 12:25 PM

Replacing a HUGE sliding glass door w/ a hinged patio door.
 
Hi guys,

I just bought a house that was built in 1973. It has a HUUUGE sliding glass patio door that is the biggest I've ever seen. I need to measure, but it's at least 80 inches in width. I want to replace it with a standard "off the shelf" set of hinged patio doors (the kind that look like french doors, but are sold as a unit).

Here's the catch, I guess. One of the big reasons we want to go with a smaller door (besides the fact that a 1973 sliding glass door is AWFUL), is to gain WALL SPACE to add more cabinetry (it's located in the kitchen). That means we need to frame it up and sheetrock the inside and wood panel the outside to match this part of the house (the house is some brick, some wood siding).

Any caveats or recommendations here? I can easily "demolish" the existing door, but I have no idea how to go from there in properly walling up the new wall real estate... I assume it would also need insulation, etc, like any external wall.

Thanks for any advice.

-Michael

skymaster 10-20-2008 12:37 PM

Since you are going from a larger door to a smaller one its real simple; As long as the height of the RO rough opening is the same then all you have to do is stud in under the header to the smaller ro you need, set the door ,rock it, side it , enjoy it.

47_47 10-20-2008 12:50 PM

As skymaster said, it's simple going smaller. The only item I question is the use of a frech door. I replaced one with a slider in my kitchen, because we lost too much space for the swing.

ZeroTX 10-20-2008 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 47_47 (Post 174347)
As skymaster said, it's simple going smaller. The only item I question is the use of a frech door. I replaced one with a slider in my kitchen, because we lost too much space for the swing.

Well, that is a consideration. They have some that are hinged on the center (one of the doors doesn't really open) or some that swing OUT, which is probably a front runner for consideration.

skymaster 10-20-2008 03:48 PM

:thumbup::whistling2: I answered the question as diplomatically as I could LOL LOL IF the question was: French doors or sliders? Sliders all the way LOL LOL No lost wall space, SCREENS, and so on. :yes:. Oh Yeah NO AIR leaks, NO water leaks.
Jack

nunziocal 10-20-2008 04:40 PM

Leaky slider
 
Hey Skymaster, I have a slider. and during heavy rains, it leaks through the verticle seam between the stationary and slide units. The thing is only a few years old and the weather stripping looks to be in good shape. Do you know how to tighten this seam or is it just a crappy door? Thanks.

skymaster 10-20-2008 07:44 PM

nunziocal: First please answer these questions; What is the brand of your slider? Have you checked the fixed panel to be sure it is seated properly in the head track? Have you checked to see if that panel is loose/as in shake it. If all ok then really look hard at the weatherstrip, it should be 2 interlocking "U" shaped channels with felt stripping inside.
Leaking happens alot more when the INSIDE panel in the moveable one. Under pressure ie wind heavy rain it moves AWAY from the weatherstripping.

nunziocal 10-21-2008 12:01 AM

That's what I figured, the inner panel being pushed in during heavy storms, opening a gap to let the water in, since that's the only time it happens, and everything else is as you noted. I did a test with a garden hose and it only enters when the water is forced through under heavy pressure. Sounds like I need a higher quality door. (There aren't any labels on the door to let me know who's it is, but I figure it's a cheap one). Thanks for your reply.

aaron.klimchuk 10-21-2008 09:53 AM

Add your new door as stated above, quite easy. You may or may not need to add another stud to the one you added to support the new doors, depends on how much space you have left. Other than that it's just as you guessed. Sheetrock, insulation, siding and you should be good to go.

ZeroTX 10-21-2008 11:39 AM

Thanks for the tips :) I think my wife is set on swing french-style patio doors, so I may have to accept that. I'd like some that BOTH open so that it can also be an alternate place to haul in extra-large items (furniture, appliances) with a bit more ease. I am cool with them being swing-out, as they will normally only be open while walking in and out.

If I were to consider a new slider, sell me on their efficiency and security, eh? I also don't like the lack of security on these sliders. I'd love to install a rock hard deadbolt with Abloy or Medeco cylinders :)

Thanks,

Michael

skymaster 10-21-2008 11:44 AM

nunziocal; Sounds like u have it pegged, most likely brand X on sale 2 dozen doors for 19.95. :)
IF you are going to look for a better door, Andersen is pretty good, Pella is better. Big thing to look for if your budget allows is a fixed inner panel and the outer moveable for the reasons I said above. Peach Tree is another brand I dont know your area but go and check out the contractors suppliers, lumber yards etc. Most box stores even tho the brands are the same sell a much cheaper version usually spec'd to the chain :{

sandy_7390 05-02-2013 11:31 AM

Removing a sliding glass to to put a regular door!!
 
Hi my name is Sandy and I have a sliding glass door that is very old and its falling apart and I was wanting to put a regular door instead. Do you know about how much it would cost and about how long it would take to do it?

Thanks,

rossfingal 05-02-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sandy_7390 (Post 1171206)
Hi my name is Sandy and I have a sliding glass door that is very old and its falling apart and I was wanting to put a regular door instead. Do you know about how much it would cost and about how long it would take to do it?

Thanks,

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