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Old 09-28-2013, 05:15 PM   #1
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A bit more than the title indicates. We want a wireless, color, day/night live security audio/video camera with receiver that can be connected to our audio video receiver or television for viewing at anytime by switching to that component. Much the same as switching to a DVR via remote control (i.e Harmony One or such). A tremendous plus would be the system transmit some type of signal (light/sound) also when motion is detected. I realize we are asking for a lot.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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Yes you are, since most homeowners are going with WiFi cameras, or POE (Power Over Ethernet) cameras. Images are saved to a NAS (Network Attached Storage), or sent to a site like http://www.mangocam.com.

I have a Foscam FI8905W for outside, that works really well.

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I really how no idea about the current technology. Thanks for getting bringing me forward.
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I really how no idea about the current technology. Thanks for getting bringing me forward.
The current technology is really no different than it was five years ago. Just better parts, that are made cheaper, so the prices have come down.

If you want the older conventional Coax RG-59 type camera, they make a converter to change the feed to RCA Yellow, or Wifi, but that adds to the costs.
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No thanks, has to be wireless. I have plenty of time for simple technology to be developed.

Your help is greatly appreciated.
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No thanks, has to be wireless. I have plenty of time for simple technology to be developed.

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With Wireless, you are going to have to have enough signal range from a WiFi repeater or Access Point. Plus you will need a A/C outlet out of the weather, that the transformer will plug into.

Mine that is attached to my garage, the wire from it, that is for Ethernet, Reset, and the DC adapter, goes up through a gap between the plywood and Car Siding, then from there goes over to an outlet. I had a problem with range though on one of my Wireless-N A/P's, so I have to use the Wireless-G A/P for my UVerse Gateway. Distance is only around 25 feet, but due to structure makeup of the house, and that the radio sits three feet underground, it does bring the Signal down.

You have to do a map of your area that you are going to be using the camera in, by using something like inSSIDer, to figure out the farthest you can get the camera. Then you have to have a way to get power to the Camera, along with having the power out of the weather.

You can use a Weather box with weather tight fittings along with having an a/c outlet in a box inside, but again you are talking more than what you may want to put into this. Then there is the cost for a upload site like mangocam.com per month, or a NAS for storage.

It is not a cheap venture, I will tell you. I have invested over $900 in my setup. Three cameras, a NAS and a APC UPS for the networking gear downstairs that the NAS is located at, along with two switches for my network, and the ATT Router/Gateway.
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That is more than I want to invest. I will like into alternatives to cameras.
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That is more than I want to invest. I will like into alternatives to cameras.
Like I stated, it is not the cameras that are expensive, it is everything that goes into running them, that adds up.
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Absolutely.
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I agree with gregzoll.
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You could get a baby monitor and point it out the window.
I went with the cheapest method which is wired. I bought a dvr security card from eBay for $20 and put it in an old pc. I got a credit card with 0% plus reward points . I used the points to get a camera.
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I installed two four-camera systems (same system at both places) at my mom's and my house.

I bought this system along with a 1 tb hard drive.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I could be wrong, but I don't think there really is such a thing as wireless.

Even if it doesn't connect via bnc wires, you still need a power source, unless you get a battery-operated one, which in the long run would probably be more trouble.

My total install price was about $335, and I had very few tools to start. Here's what I did:

1) figured out where I wanted the cameras
2) drilled two holes in the attic (two cameras into either hole) and stuck pvc pipe in the holes
3) fished the wires from both pvc pipes into the pipes and into the attic
4) figured out where I wanted the bnc jack (on my bedroom wall) so that it was close to the dvr
5) drilled into the top plate at the appropriate spot and dropped all the camera wires down (4 bnc and 4 power cables)
6) cut out a spot in the drywall for the jack and put it in
7) wired the bnc to the wall outlet (keystone style wallplate) the power cables came out through an empty slot in the wallplate and hooked into the wall from there
8) hooked it all up to the dvr
9) sealed up the pipe/holes in the attic with spray foam and caulk--used a grommet/bushing for the entry into the attic
10)put protective tubing on the outside wires and clamped them to the siding

I hope this helps. If you have anymore questions, let me know.

I am not handy at all and I did this in about 21 hours per install.
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I should add that, in my experience, the night vision is a joke.

You really need some bright lights positioned appropriately around the camera, maybe some motion floodlights.

That's my next project.
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A bit more than the title indicates. We want a wireless, color, day/night live security audio/video camera with receiver that can be connected to our audio video receiver or television for viewing at anytime by switching to that component. Much the same as switching to a DVR via remote control (i.e Harmony One or such). A tremendous plus would be the system transmit some type of signal (light/sound) also when motion is detected. I realize we are asking for a lot.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Most of what you're asking for is not that big a deal. The night time color however is a bit of a stretch. You need lots of light for that so if you have a WELL lit area then it won't be so bad, but most don't at night.

You can do it pretty cheap if you wish but the quality won't be so great. Better to spend a few bucks. You can also get pretty elaberate with these things too if you want.

http://www.homesecuritystore.com/c-4-surveillance.aspx
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I should add that, in my experience, the night vision is a joke.
Actually night vision can be pretty good. The mistake people make is that the small ir lighting from the cams isn't that powerful so the range sucks. Adding some ir lighting at the ground level will greatly improve things.

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