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Old 05-05-2012, 02:16 PM   #31
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You should have been able to tell I was being Sarcastic, I love it when someone watches a DIY show and then they think they can do it but have no idea on how to start.
But it is what the DIY shows and box stores that fuel them with what we want to be "sewn".

I personally love seeing the former Miss Canada painting and moving furniture in heels and wearing perfectly coordinated high fashion to help stage a house for sale. Could the BEHR paint labels be any more attractive?!

And my all time fave is the show that probably does help out families in trouble but suggests they build 7,000sf houses, with special elevators in a week. Mortar cannot dry or cure completely in a week. Decent paint takes 30 days.

In a pinch architects and structural engineers that work for me can get me drawings in a couple days. None have suggested yet I build anything from the ground up from $300 Menard's plans. I have nothing against Texas save for Houston smells and Dallas is Dallas. Like I said. Big hats. No cattle.

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Old 05-05-2012, 02:23 PM   #32
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Nice to see that yet another thread has devolved into a pointless pissing contest.
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:00 PM   #33
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This thread started bad and it will only get worse.
Recap of original post:
1. Has land
2. No experiance
3. No money
4. No job
5. No idea of what to do 1st.
6. Before starting he is wanting the cheapest plans
7. Never built a house
8. Thinks $10,000 is too much for tree removal (I would not know from watching a TV show what was involved in the cost)
9. Starting with a 2 story
10. No Budget

Looks like everything is in order for a huge loss of money.
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Back of Dr. Hicks.

This person wants us to suggest you can possibly build a nice house or two from drawings sold at a box store for a few schillings.
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Back of Dr. Hicks.

This person wants us to suggest you can possibly build a nice house or two from drawings sold at a box store for a few schillings.
How many times do you guys feel you need to repeat the same things? Or are you just bored?

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Well if we are bored losers, then we are all in this together
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Old 05-05-2012, 07:04 PM   #37
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this situation is a lose lose for the builder if they have no experience.. twice ive worked on homes where the homeowner was acting as the gc with no experience in it.. both times we were less than 1/4 of the way through construction and the homeowner was coming to us for advice on just about everything,, what should be done, who to use for different subtrades etc..... by the time we got to 1/2 complete we basically took over the job and the homeowner was left to be the homeowner picking out paint colors and tile

with my construction experience doing it proffesionally in the residential new construction sector and renovation plus commercial construction ive worked for builders that were guys that worked their way up through the ranks ( very organized and know what needs to be done) and the "egg head contractors" as i call them ( number crunchers that business people but dont know how things get done) the guys that grew up in the industry are the best ones to have running a job. they dont miss anything.. the other ones estimate x amount of material and time to do something when it takes xxx amount of material and time.. when the trade needs more material the gc blames the sub... . ill take the guy that actually builds as my builder
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Great to hear that Woodwork, But this poster is not a builder, tradesman, cleanup, broom pusher, let alone a person that should attempt the project.
Who would give a construction loan to this person.
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ill take the guy that actually builds as my builder
I couldn't agree more.

Even as a subcontractor, I have a simple rule when it comes to builders: If they don't regularily wear a tool belt, I don't want anything to do with them.
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Great to hear that Woodwork, But this poster is not a builder, tradesman, cleanup, broom pusher, let alone a person that should attempt the project.
Who would give a construction loan to this person.

re read my post. i clearly state how quickly it gets out of hand trying to work for homeowners trying to act as a builder
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Hi all friends,
I watch out all your opinions and i want to share my opinion that you should be keep a place for a garden in your home for fresh air and also keep a space for a garage for your car parking because after completion your home you do not have to face problems
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A lot of negative post here. And sdsester, what does "Big hats. No cattle" mean? I don't know it you have ever been to Texas but its nothing like what you see on TV. I have only ridden on a horse once in my life. And no I don't own cowboy boots or a cowboy hat. Back to the subject, let be be a little bit more clear on my construction experience, I do know more about the business of it then I previously gave myself credit for. I don't know if I mentioned before, but I do know how to hang drywall. I also have many family and friends that know a lot about the business and can help along the way. I will take you guys advice and work for awhile in the industry before I go forward with construction though. In the mean time I would like to put together a list of the process so that I can get a figure of cost.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong:

1. pick out plans and buy blue prints that fit my property
2. permits from the city
3. land cleared (recently done)
4. plumber for sewage and water
5. foundation constructed and poured
6. wood framing
7. roof shingles
8. energy/installation barrier siding
9. windows and doors and bathtubs
10. electrical wiring, alarm wiring and heat and air conditioning
11. siding/brick
12. interior installation, sheet rock and attic installation
13. taping and floating and texturing
14. Base boards and crown molding and interior doors
15. painting
16. carpet/tile/wood floors
17. cabinets/sinks/faucets and fixture (lights, light switches, plates) and toilets
18. landscaping
19. Staging (optional)
20. marketing (open house)

Whats missing or out of order?

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I don't know about your area but you may want to go to the city and they should have a list of all requirements. Being that you just bought the lot I would think you still have all the property pins located and marked.
If the city does not require these items for a start I would include them in the budget anyways.
Insurance
Securiry Fencing
Porta Pot
Lot grading
Compaction test
Trash containment
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This is an absolutely insane thread. But what they hey. Here is what I notice missing.

Financing? Bank will want their construction loan back so you better be sure you can sell these shacks or can convert the loan if they sit
Money for Taxes? These things are going to increase your tax assessment and you will need to pay the increase until you sell them
Utilities? You will need to turn some on in your name
Identifying and Checking Availability of Good Sub-Contractors? Yellow pages could work I suppose (not). Good ones will be busy
Project Management? Beyond a list because stuff will happen and your critical path will change with just a single thunderstorm
Inspection Fees? May or not be allowed in your construction loan. I certainly would not pay interest on them and do them out of pocket
Psychotherapy? Because you will realize you are way over your head with this at some point
Personal Security? If you involve friends and family in this venture you will need it
Community Relations? Are these shacks going up in a community that will tolerate them or are you building on an historically landmarked piece of land to start
Legal Counsel? I sense your need for one in all this big time

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I have a wild idea for you. Since even you know there is no money in this for you. Why don't you cut your losses, talk with your accountant, and donate this land to Habitat for Humanity! Glory in the tax write off, get out from under the property taxes and revel in doing a truly nice thing for the community?

Then start over when you have more experience, perhaps working on the houses Habitat builds and try again when you are more ready?

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