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Old 12-24-2007, 05:32 PM   #16
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Thanks Mike, now you get the idea what I mean about 'repairmen' here, they don't know how to fix anything, and only want to sell new. I have had 2 heating a/c people here every year for the last 3 years to fill up my freon, I asked both about repairing the leak, they both told me it is not worth it because the units are 15 years old. I can't afford new, and as much as I hate doing it with the leak, have no choice but to fill it each year. Believe me, I would give anything to move back to Chicago, but there is no way!

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Old 12-26-2007, 05:23 PM   #17
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judymar,

Your furnace came with what they call a roof jack. This is the flue pipe going through the roof. It is a double pipe, combustion air comes in through the outer pipe. If either pipe is blocked, the furnace will not operate properly.

There should be no air coming up from around the furnace. The person that ran your new gas pipe may have left too large a hole. Regardless of where it comes from, it needs to be sealed from under the trailer.

If the combustion chamber is cracked, there is no other option than to replace the furnace. Replacing the combustion chamber will not save anything over a complete replacement. Do you have a carbon monoxide alarm? If not, get one.

Finding a leak in your AC should not be that big a deal, at least for a service person that knows what they are doing.

You need someone knowledgeable to check your system. The instructor at your local community college is in the business and should know what to do or be able to recommend someone that does. Shawnee Community College is in the next county from your location.

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Old 12-26-2007, 09:16 PM   #18
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Thanks for letting me know what's what...The man who put the gas pipe in, came here Monday...This is what I have to deal with, he had a can of what looked like spray foam to put down the hole where the air was coming from. He couldn't get it to spray, so put caulk around the pipe where the hole is. When I wasted my breath about asking him if that is okay, he reasured me it was, but can't believe a word he says. I am just sick about this whole thing, and it was all caused by him, but he was the only one I could find on short notice to run the pipe, I knew when I saw him there was going to be some kind of a problem. I am waiting to hear from a friend by email, if I should leave it as it is, or take it up and get the spray to put down there. After talking to the repairman who put the un-needed valve in, he said he is going to refund my money...I'll believe it when I see it, suppose to be here by the end of the week. I told the one who was here Monday to go under the trailer to see if everything is alright, naturally he came back and said it was.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:30 PM   #19
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You are only compounding your problems by continuing to let this/these incompetent person/people "work" on the situation.

Stop. Just stop where you are, listen to the advice you're being given here and heed it.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:29 AM   #20
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I know what you are saying, and in the past 3 years, I have had altogether 4 repairmen out to see to my a/c or furnace...With my furnace, I called the first company out two years in a row when my it wouldn't go on for the winter. First he told me if it doesn't come on again to bang on an area, then after the second time, a year later when it wouldn't go on, even after banging, he showed me where the flap is, and to just move it back and forth, it gets stuck. What kind of repairman would tell someone to just bang on it? I have never seen people like this, all I can say (because I can't think of another term) is they are just plain half-a----. I had my trailer moved down here from the Chicago area, after that was when the a/c started with the leak. I have asked all of them about fixing it, was told by all of them, except the last one, the units are too old (15 years) to put any money into, and it could cost up to $800 to find the leak...Hate to say it, but this last repairman who put the un-needed valve in, seems to be the best I have had here, and that isn't saying much, but he did say he could fix the a/c leak, for far less than what I have been quoted all along. When I lived in Chicago, there were maintenance men who worked for the owners where I lived...They also did work privately, and they did everything. No matter what went wrong with anything, one of them could fix it...I thank you all for letting me pour out my woes, and for all the good advice, but now I need to know how do I find someone who knows what they are doing?
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Old 12-28-2007, 05:23 PM   #21
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The latest diagnosis, the pilot won't stay lit because of a crack in the heat exchanger...Another silly question, would I have heard a loud pop when it cracked? The night all this started with the pilot going out was the same night I heard that loud pop. Either way, Sears is coming tomorrow to give me an estimate for new units...Now, I wish I knew what the cost for furnace and a/c will be, so I can prepare myself. My trailer is about the size of a small two bedroom apt. 56'x16'.
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Old 12-28-2007, 06:04 PM   #22
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We used to live near Franklin County Illinois... you want a good reference? Reeds Heating and Air Conditioning out of Benton...
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Old 12-28-2007, 08:17 PM   #23
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They were the first ones I called when the furnace wouldn't go on for the winter, when they came out, changed a spring on the furnace, then told me if it doesn't start again, to bang on the area. The next year I banged, but it still didn't go on, so had to call them again...That time he showed me where a flap was that has to be turned, it gets stuck...What I am was use to, was getting it fixed to work the way is should on the first visit, already had to pay a $70 service call, so a few dollars more for labor, I would have gladly paid to get it right. This is the kind of work 'ethics' I am not use to. But, thanks anyway.
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Really sorry to hear that... they were always good for us. Good Luck!
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:25 PM   #25
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Still looking for some ideas...The latest I have noticed, the pilot light seems to only go out when it is real cold out (naturally). On Friday, which was pretty cold, it went out 3 times, when I lit it on the third time that evening, it hasn't gone out once...Am back to thinking the gas pipe hole has something to do with it. Can't spray the foam down there because of the caulk that was put around it by the 'repairman' who put the pipe in. He did the sloppy caulking last week. There is no way I could go under the trailer, so will have to wait for someone to come over before that is checked out right.
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DELSU,
Think you have it, with the hole being too large, at least I am now feeling I don't have to replace the furnace...Got a quote from Sears, the least expensive would be around $1700 plus labor...I'd just have to invest in several space heaters before I'd be able to spend that much...
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Old 12-30-2007, 01:23 PM   #27
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Maam, the reason I asked about the heat exchanger in my first post was because how common it is to have a hole and have pilot issues. It will go out more in colder weather because it runs longer and the hole will stay open from the heated exchanger. This will let carbon monoxide into your home, which can kill you. It isn't something to play around with as are space heaters which cause many deaths per year as well. Replace the furnace.
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+Thanks to everyone for all your good advice and help...As the saga comes to an end, I finally accepted the fact that my furnace has to be replaced. Decided to try one more repairman, he knew as soon as I mentioned the popping noise I heard when this first started that it had to be the heat exchanger. He ran what he called a snake, it had a camera on the end, and showed me all the rusted out spots, and the cracks along the bottom. This will be my last night sleeping with 4 blankets, and freezing as soon as I get out of bed in the morning
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:22 PM   #29
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At long last (three years), have found a heating and a/c repair business in southern Illinois who knows what they are doing, RSP Heating & a/c, in Benton, Il. Just in case there is someone in the area looking for an honest, reputable, and most of all knowledgeable repair service, I can honestly recommend them...After having 6 separtate repair service since moving here, think I am very well qualified to know good from bad, five bad and one good!

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