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Contractormedic 07-11-2012 02:19 PM

Permits
 
Ok. I have heard horror stories of people not obtaining the proper permits and inspectors coming in and giving them massive fines or making them tear out parts of homes in order to properly inspect things. With that being said, during my remodel I plan on obtaining all proper permits and things of the sort, but do they tell you how far you can go before you need an inspection? I dont want to go too far and have to undo something. Not to mention, I dont want to make a name for myself in a bad way with the inspector. I want it all done right, but I dont want to mess up with the inspector.

joecaption 07-11-2012 02:51 PM

Should be asking your local code office these questions. If they see your trying to learn and willing to ask before doing they will go easy on you.
Make a list of question before you even go apply for a permit.
There not likly to give you one for electrical or plumbing your contractor in most cases will have to get one.

CopperClad 07-11-2012 03:26 PM

Contractormedic, I'm glad you're getting permits, and inspections. If the person that ran the wire, notched the studs, and hid those boxes in the wall had an inspection , he would have got a big fat FAIL and had to redo it. Sorry you have to deal with someone elses mess, but good to hear you're going about it the right way. :thumbsup:

Contractormedic 07-11-2012 06:13 PM

@Copperclad: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! I swear I dont mean to laugh at the part about me fixing someone elses mistake but if you only knew what I had been through with this property, you would understand. :) I am going to start a running thread in the project showcase area later tonight or this week and you can see there the kinds of things Ive been dealing with. :) As far as the permits and stuff, the way way I see it, there is a reason that things have to be a certain way because people in the past have either messed up or learned something new over time. I dont want that screw up to be me. :)

@Joecaption: Thank you for the words of wisdom. They will be followed. Didnt think about the list of questions though. Good idea.

ddawg16 07-11-2012 10:41 PM

Joecaption pretty much hit it on the nail.....

I have found the building department to be very helpful. Put in a call yesterday regarding the flooring material on my balcony....the guy didn't call back until later in the day...but did call back and gave me an answser.

One thing to remember regarding permits....if you ever go to sell the house, a savy buyer may check to see if permits were pulled for some of the 'improvements'.....if not, the buyer has an out or can use that as leverage to get the price down. In almost all cases, the cost of permits is nothing compared to the consequences....

On another note....my inspector has no problem stopping by to look at something when I'm not sure about it. One day, he spent 30 min helping me design part of my crawlspace plumbing.

Regarding inspection phases....your building department will confirm....but typically for remodels...

Framing
Electrical
Plumbing
Drywall nailing
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PaliBob 07-12-2012 12:08 AM

I got my new Deck permit as a homeowner (10 years ago) from Los Angeles Building & Safety and by far my biggest problem was getting past the Plan Checker in the Building department. I had a Civil Engineer friend make up and stamp the Plans including all the calculations for the four 6" square steel posts each with a 4'x4'x4' concrete foundation.

The Plan Checker strung me out for a month mostly with her suggestions which were all cosmetic or questions of plan clarification. At the end she was down to a final suggestion of increasing the four foundations to 5'x5'x5'. This was Not a requirement but just a feel good change.

My Engineer thought his plan had plenty of margin but I think to get me to stop phoning him with inquiries he agreed to four 5'x5'x5' concrete foundations (50% volume increase)

The original Plan calcs were NOT typed but done as multiple rows in longhand. To modify the calcs, my Engineer just went through and crossed out the 4's and wrote in 5's.

I took the modified calcs to the Plan Checker when after ten minutes of scrutiny she jumped up and joyfully pointed out to me a boo boo
There was one 4 that had not been crossed out and a 5 written in, resulting in a tiny decrease of computed strength.

She was so proud of her discovery, she immediately called my Engineer to crow.
Of course I had to trek down to the West LA Office one more time with that last change to get the final Plan Approval.

Contractormedic 07-12-2012 12:15 AM

Wow. Well, after reading on here and hearing yalls few stories and stories of others, ill just do what I do and after the building inspector sees the kind of work I do, I will let the work speak for itself. I dont do anything half a$$ed and I want it to be done right because if I never sell the house, im the one thats gonna be living there. Not to mention, my son one day will inherit it and I dont want to leave him with a heap of crap either. Thank you all for your suggestions and stories. They are much appreciated. :)

joecaption 07-12-2012 12:20 AM

We even have one for insulation.
Nothing your going to tell us or show us is going to surprize us. Most of the people that have been talking to you do this stuff everyday.
I have a whole album filled with some real classics.
EG: 3 layers of T-111 with R3 insulation between each layer that was crushed when they attached it, why 3 layers? Eash one had rotted so they just went over it with another layer. Reason it always failed, no gutters, deck tight again the siding and the deck was sloped toward the siding.
The house was built with 2 X 4 floor joist, 24" on center, talk about floor sag and bounce.
He asked me to replace a sliding door, something did not look right, I went under the house and could see the whole aluminum threshold. All the subflooring had rotted away as well as the bottom plate and rim joist. Looking in the window the place had new carpeting.
When I asked him about it he said oh ya I had to install new carpet so no one would fall through the floor.
And no that's not a joke.
And god bless all those people before us that have made a mess of things, sure keeps us in business. lol

Contractormedic 07-12-2012 12:48 AM

Well, now I dont feel so bad about my place. At least im not the only one having to go back and fix somebody elses mistakes or laziness. :) Thanks again everybody. :)


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