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Old 06-13-2013, 04:44 PM   #1
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Well the rains are soon to end and I have a big job to get started on. This is an open invitation to all you fellow board members to come on by and help. Tearing off the old roof is easy enough by myself but putting up the new framing is going to be complicated with just two hands.

Here's what it is supposed to look like.


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That hip roof will sure give your math skills a work out--
What are you serving for lunch and dinner? Is there camping allowed in your yard?

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Well the rains are soon to end
Are you sure about that? How long do you expect to have things opened up?
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What are you serving for lunch and dinner? Is there camping allowed in your yard?
I did the front 2 years ago. The compound angles kicked my butt. If I learned anything I have since forgotten it. Participants are fed what ever they like and full run of the property.
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You may want to hire a good framer for a couple of days----Hips in a hurry ---that can be a challenge---
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Are you sure about that? How long do you expect to have things opened up?
The roof that is there now is shot. I have no choice. The part over the longer side is a flat roof. The rest is 2X4 on 2' centers under 5 layers of shingles. Major sag. I hope to get it done before the snow flies. When I did the front 2 years ago the biggest poke in the eye was stopping work while I still had enough energy left to screw down the tarps every night.
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I have been looking around. So far I can't get anyone interested.
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I have been looking around. So far I can't get anyone interested.
OK... I'll run the BBQ and work the beer keg..... but no watching the Indians or Brownies.

by the way, no way to truss that out... alot quicker and easier.... you can use an inverted hip and still maintain a cathedral effect.
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My thoughts exactly Mike. It makes me nervous when someone opens up living space without a clear scheduled of when things will be dried in.

There's lots of things op can diy to save $$$ on this project but to open up a roof and then ask questions on how to frame a hip with the hope that it doesn't rain isn't one of them.
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I've been on projects with good framers and had the weather still bite us badly.
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If weather is that iffy, truss it, build it on the ground, tearoff, crane it up,and be enclosed in two days... more $$.....
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The front of the house now has the exact same structure on it. I built most of it all by myself in 2011. It was brutal. In early July a freak storm came through Dayton and splattered a few buildings and thousands of trees. It also ripped off my tarps. The wife and I were in the living room listening to all the carnage outside getting ready to make for the basement when water began to dump through the ceiling in large quantities. Before we could even process that spectacle the power went out. Had to switch from the roof project to disaster management for the next two weeks.

By the middle of October I knew I needed help if I wanted to have shingles on it before December. I found a guy (wish I could still get a hold of him) that helped me finish up the framing and get the deck nailed down. Then just as the shingles were about to go on I went and slipped on loose sand from some discount weather guard and fell off. I got out of the hospital the day before Thanksgiving and was incapable of even getting up off the couch by myself. The guy across the street knew a roofer that was able to put on the new shingles for us right before December came.

Recovery was a slow ordeal so I spent last summer easing back into manual labor. Replaced my electric service then rebuilt the front room of the house that was pretty much gutted from the storm.

So yeah! Bad things can happen when you have your roof opened up. I know that as well as anybody. Doesn't mean I get to skip doing the rest of it though.
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If weather is that iffy, truss it, build it on the ground, tearoff, crane it up,and be enclosed in two days... more $$.....
This is an old neighborhood with mature trees and wires all over the place. A crane would have to be big enough to cost more than we can pay. The tarps worked great up to 80mph wind. I used fender washers and screws every 12" along the edges.

Also the framing has to be removed and replaced piece at a time on that central peak so the other side won't collapse.
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I have been looking around. So far I can't get anyone interested.
Here too.

Once you get past about 25 you won't get help to move either.
Even with pizza and beer.
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Here too.

Once you get past about 25 you won't get help to move either.
Even with pizza and beer.
So True...

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