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Old 08-27-2014, 01:17 AM   #16
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I built a 6x7 metre shop with a 6x6 metre carport on the front. 1 vehicle door, 1 personnel door. Metal siding, asphalt shingle roof; secondhand windows & personnel door, and a large skylight in the roof above the workbench. Functional, but still not finished because of other projects that got in the way. I have a thread on here somewhere about the build.
It suits me, though I need another shed for all those turning blanks that are taking up valuable floor space :-)

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Old 08-27-2014, 01:28 AM   #17
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Here's the thread: My new carport & workshop project
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:18 PM   #18
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1) Determine what needs to go in it. You mention 2 cars, truck, motorcycles, but what about lawn mower, snowblower, large tools like saws, storage items like cabinets, and tool benches. Once you determine what you need for those, that can help you decide how much space you need. Ideally you'd have enough space to have everything around the edge and still be able to open both car doors and walk around them.

2) more light is better. even if you don't install it now, plan for it in the future. It's easy to wire in switches and switched outlets when building, but much harder to do later.

3) Windows. My preference for a garage is high mounted awning windows. They are a little more expensive than conventional, but they allow you to place items under then and not block them, are harder to see in from outside, and can be opened in the rain without letting water in.

4) Since you don't want to go a full two story, consider getting storage trusses. They are built with space in the center to be used for storage, and are strong enough for it. When you build and plan, don't have it finished so it doesn't could as square footage. It's easy enough after the fact to add an attic ladder or stairs and some plywood flooring to use it as storage (or workshop if height is right)

5) If you go with 2 door, leave a wide enough space between doors, and maybe get oversized doors that are 9 or 10' wide instead of 8. My last garage had 3 doors, but only 10 inches between doors. When two cars were inside, it was tight getting in and out.

6) The money spent building and plumbing in a small exterior compartment for an oil-less compresser should more than cover a good oiled compressor that you can install in the corner. It will also work better.

7) 9 or 10' ceilings would be my preference, even if I was not going to have a lift. That would leave space to hang bikes, canoe, kayaks, storage for totes/lumber/etc, and give you room if you have a large vehicle.

These are what I would consider when building a garage.
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Some thoughts I will add:

My favorite garages are twice as deep. Go with a standard 2-car width, single double-wide door on the front, but make it twice as deep. Have your workshop area in the rear. Put a 1-car roll-up door on the rear and you can have a nice pass-through or bring in/out items without moving cars out of the way. That's my plan for when I eventually get rid of my pool and put on my addition - just blow out the back wall and make the garage another 20' deep.

Also, skylights or solar-tubes off the ceiling will bring much needed light while reducing the amount of windows you need on the walls. Solar tubes [tubular skylights] are relatively inexpensive and not complicated to install versus a traditional skylight window.
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Old 08-28-2014, 05:24 PM   #20
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I would recommend you talk to an expert about your garage, such as Yoder Doors if you are in the delmarva area- http://yoderdoors.com/garage-doors-rehoboth-de
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Enjoying all the thoughts and suggestions. Sounds like you all have thought of how you would build your next garage

Seems like size is not a concern for most of you, suggesting 3 doors or extra deep, lots of windows, etc.

I'm a modest fella and I also don't want a large shop building making the property and house look less significant....my house will be no larger than 40x40 - likely smaller. So a 40' x 32' or 32' x 54' shop would be insane...along with the material cost...

I'm thinking 28 x 28 or maybe 28 x 32 is large. More than 32 x 32 would seem crazy expensive and too large? Adding in a bathroom will really force me to choose 32 x 32 to have it not intrude on the rest of the building. Ideally it would store 2 vehicles, say full size to stay safe...be able to open the door all the way... and store tools and workbench at the back of the shop/garage. A small tractor and mower will either be stored at the back of the garage or in a separate building. I do like the idea of having a small say 8x8 garage door in the back to get things in & out.

I would have one personal door at the front closest to the house in the corner.

Probably change my mind on the radiant floor heating, I would not want to keep it on all winter long...

Ceiling height would be no less than 9' even though it means additional plywood and also non traditional framing size (vs 8' studs).

Plenty of light and outlets of course.

Windows would be likely the awning style as suggested, I originally was going to use that style to allow venting but safety and privacy all at the same time.

The air compressor box was cute, but it doesn't seem worth it for myself. If I was a gearhead, maybe that's a luxury to have.

The shower in the garage would be used only during the period of building the house most likely for weekends I bunk out in the garage...after the house is built the shower may never see use again unless the house shower had issues. a small 3x3 shower stall should not be too much of a waste if the bathroom floor plan is done efficiently.

On with the idea of bunking out in the garage for weekends while working on the house - a conditioned space in the attic of the garage would be nice...but also means a lot of extra work for a DIY. Special trusses to allow space and meeting all code req's. would be a pain. If I had tons of $$$ I wouldn't even flinch at the idea, then again I would just pay someone to build my entire house and not need the conditioned space in the garage
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Also, check your local building & zoning codes. Sounds like you are in the middle of nowhere, so they may not be as strict, but here you cannot have a detached garage in an R-1 district, and no detached garages can have a living space or finished second story/attic. Also, maximum height for an accessory building is 15'. B&Z codes are like carpentry - measure twice, cut once.

A 28x28 has roughly the same footprint as a 20x40 or 24x32. (I'm not giving up selling you on my deep/tandem design - ha). You could also do an L shape or something to make it look less like a big box in your yard.

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The air compressor box was cute, but it doesn't seem worth it for myself. If I was a gearhead, maybe that's a luxury to have.
This is one of those tools you purchase and wonder how you ever did without it. Your average 120V 30gallon 6HP compressor on CL will do 99% of people just fine. Especially with your construction project.
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Also, check your local building & zoning codes. Sounds like you are in the middle of nowhere, so they may not be as strict, but here you cannot have a detached garage in an R-1 district, and no detached garages can have a living space or finished second story/attic. Also, maximum height for an accessory building is 15'. B&Z codes are like carpentry - measure twice, cut once.

A 28x28 has roughly the same footprint as a 20x40 or 24x32. (I'm not giving up selling you on my deep/tandem design - ha). You could also do an L shape or something to make it look less like a big box in your yard.
I definitely am checking with zoning. If I were 2 miles out of city I could do whatever I wanted! But I am a mile away....and there is QN ordinance saying I need a residence first so I spoke with the city manager. I asked him to work with me because other people have shops and no house out there. He seemed positive and said he will probably be able to permit it for me because it makes logical sense. I don't tell him I may live in part of it...and I may never. But it would be nice to have the option.

@95PG - you mean the compressor or the box? I plan on getting a nice compressor. My father owns two name brand 60? Gallon ones from his mechanic days. I know technology has made them much quieter now.
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@95PG - you mean the compressor or the box? I plan on getting a nice compressor. My father owns two name brand 60? Gallon ones from his mechanic days. I know technology has made them much quieter now.
The compressor is a MUST HAVE if you plan on doing any DIY, even cutting the yard. Stuff as simple as blowing the crap out of your shoes, off the lawnmower, etc. You may find the compressors he has are a lot quieter/better. You will find that you can't go a weekend without using it multiple times.
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The compressor is a MUST HAVE if you plan on doing any DIY, even cutting the yard. Stuff as simple as blowing the crap out of your shoes, off the lawnmower, etc. You may find the compressors he has are a lot quieter/better. You will find that you can't go a weekend without using it multiple times.
Oh for sure! A man is not a man without an air compressor. I suppose I will opt for a mid range one unless the good quiet ones are a reasonable price. Cheers.

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