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Old 01-03-2010, 09:56 AM   #1
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newer windows-----drafts already?


had these windows installed in march 08.

since it's really windy, I noticed we have some drafts. i will caulk, but what about the area where I wrote "can feel air"? I am not sure what that piece is called. might this have been a poor install? thanks for taking a look







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can't really tell from the pic, is that a handle to pull the window? if it goes through the window frame, remove it and caulk under it.
then caulk the rest too, of course. air shouldn't ought to move around a window.....

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The picture looks like the upper sash of a DH unit. The device pictured looks like the lower sash stop.
I would remove the casing trim to see if the window frames were insulated. There will be a gap all around the window that should have been filled with a slow expanding foam. If that was not done, it would explain the drafts. After that's fixed, reattach the casing and caulk if necessary.
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It looks like the spring balance cover. The solution is the same.
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thanks Ron,

never done aything w/ windows so excuse my ignorance. just so i am clear, are you saying I should remove the molding and check to see if it is insulated? also, should i remove the spring balance cover?
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If you had a company install them, call them back, and have them correct the problems. Also, the macro shots you posted help in nothing to see the "big" picture. You need to show the whole window, not just a piece of the puzzle, in order to have those trying to help, to get a better idea at what is at stake. If close up/macro is needed, we are able to do so, by clicking on the picture.
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the only reason you should feel a draft there is thru an empty screw hole and the window not sealed [caulked] to the exterior
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thanks Ron,

never done aything w/ windows so excuse my ignorance. just so i am clear, are you saying I should remove the molding and check to see if it is insulated? also, should i remove the spring balance cover?
No real need to remove the cover as the drafts are coming from gaps behind the window.
As Gregzoll said, the company that installed the windows should be called to repair any short comings in the install, but I would definitely remove the molding on this window to see what's going on. Stating an exact problem to the installer is better then the generic, "I've got drafts" patter of the uninformed. Less likely they'll try to blow smoke up your behind, if you tell them "why" you have drafts.
Check all the windows, if this one is installed incorrectly, there may be others. I would even open a few to check out the difference in the space next to the window. It could be, the guy who did this window just forgot to seal the space.
It's better to have these guys come out once to fix any and all issues then to keep calling them back, window by window.
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i posted a better pic....


i will start by recaulking. since it is obvious to me that the interior casing is the main source of the draft. is it odd that in 20 mos. the casing would detach like this, or is that typical? trying to decide if i should call the installer.
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What kind of windows were installed before ?
Old kind with sash weights ?

Two reasons I replaced my vinyl replacement windows
#1 - they never insulated the sash weight pockets
#2 = never properly insulated around the edges or caulked to seal against drafts

End result was a ~3" uninsulated area on each side of the window & (6) areas between multiple windows ~12" wide that was not insulated

Caulking would stop the draft, but as Ron said better to remove the molding to see what is going on
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i will start by recaulking. since it is obvious to me that the interior casing is the main source of the draft. is it odd that in 20 mos. the casing would detach like this, or is that typical? trying to decide if i should call the installer.
Doing the easiet thing isn't the solution. If the gap was filled, you wouldn't have air blowing out the side of the window. The molding actually needs to be better nailed, not filled with caulk.
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the cold air is NOT coming from the interior side its coming from the outside start there,
outside stop to window is not sealed that's why you feel cold air under the balance cover


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