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Old 03-05-2010, 10:49 PM   #16
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where are you located, how soon after install did they break. I know there can be glass problems with windows shipped thru high elevations
I think the first one broke 3 year after they were installed, the latest one that broke was 1 1/2 weeks ago.

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Old 03-05-2010, 10:52 PM   #17
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Aren't bathroom windows suposted to be tempered? if they measured them they might of given you the wrong windows
I think windows in the tub area have to be tempered, but i'm not sure if there are different codes in Cali.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:00 PM   #18
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It would only make sense for the glass to "blow-up" if it IS tempered. Tomas, when these windows broke, did it occur in large chunks or tiny pieces. If it is large chunks than it is plate glass and almost impossible that the window would have blown across the room unless there was an impact. Tempered glass shatters in tiny fragments and can "explode" across the room given the right circumstances, however this is generally deemed to be less dangerous as the pieces are so small.
That is the strange part about this issue, when I ran up stairs to see what happen, glass was every where. If the was an impact of some sort, the outside glass would have broke first (I would think). You can see the out side glass broke first about a year prior. The question that baffles me is, why are only a certain size breaking out and not the rest of my windows.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:06 PM   #19
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that could be Dave,most windows shipped from or to those higher elevations should have cappilary tubes installed that are crimped on site


this is another reason to post your LOCATION
Im located in San Luis Obispo CA.....so we are only about 75 ft above sea level
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:20 PM   #20
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Didnt see pic before.. That is definitely not tempered. I don't know if you are 100% sure that nothing hit the window, but I have my doubts. The manufacturer definitely won't warranty that unless it includes glass breakage (which yours does not)
I pretty sure that it was not caused by impact, because the first two that broke are down stairs, and if that were the case, an object would have to dodge a tree and brush in front of the window and slam at a high rate. If it was foul play..(a drunk college student, I live next to a university) they would have to hop a fence, deal with security lights, and then deal with my dog. Also, if there was an impact, there would be a point on the glass were you can see were it hit like a beebee hole. Thank you for responding back to my thread.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:32 PM   #21
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Any big storms...low pressure systems that moved thru around that time ?
I know winds can be very strong coming off the ocean

Just weird one busted on the inside (only ?)

Of course pressure could cause that
That is what im saying "just weird".....the night it broke was a clam, so I don't
what to say. I think it might have something to do with pressure. The way it broke looks like if you would put an air hose on it and opened up the valve until it blew like a balloon.
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:41 PM   #22
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Yeah...I figured if there was a storm you would have mentioned it
But I was thinking you might not have been home

Have any neighbors had anything happen ?

Any glowing lights in the sky

Here's a web-site with comments starting in '04 about exploding glass

http://wooga.drbacchus.com/exploding-glass
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Old 03-05-2010, 11:50 PM   #23
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Yeah...I figured if there was a storm you would have mentioned it
But I was thinking you might not have been home

Have any neighbors had anything happen ?

Any glowing lights in the sky

Here's a web-site with comments starting in '04 about exploding glass

http://wooga.drbacchus.com/exploding-glass
thanks scuba dave: I wish this would explain why is my glass only exploding on this certain size window inside and out........
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Old 03-06-2010, 07:22 AM   #24
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do the windows still open and close or are they in a bind?
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Old 03-06-2010, 09:29 AM   #25
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Theory: Same size windows, same manufacturing lot, same shipping, packageing and handleing. The windows may have suffered the same trama, or stress at some common point. (might even be the glass was just to tight in the frame)

The weakness created in each could manifest itself at very different times due to numerous variables at each installed location.

Exploding? Did you witness the first two?

Not unsual for glass breaking quickly to sound more like a pop then
a creeking crack.

pressure variance / just the way this one broke ? / to bad you didn't film this..

Good luck... I'm not sure you will ever be able to find a definitive answer.

On a positive note * here is your chance to upgrade to low E insulated glass. You might be able to replace the glass yourself if frame allows... (have local glass co make insulated to your measurements)

But, this is a good project to contract out... Let them be responcible for
exact measure and proper fit.
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do the windows still open and close or are they in a bind?
One side is a slider window and it opens just find. My 1st thought was the weight of the house applying down pressure, but that was not the case
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Old 03-07-2010, 12:33 AM   #27
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Theory: Same size windows, same manufacturing lot, same shipping, packageing and handleing. The windows may have suffered the same trama, or stress at some common point. (might even be the glass was just to tight in the frame)

The weakness created in each could manifest itself at very different times due to numerous variables at each installed location.

Exploding? Did you witness the first two?

Not unsual for glass breaking quickly to sound more like a pop then
a creeking crack.

pressure variance / just the way this one broke ? / to bad you didn't film this..

Good luck... I'm not sure you will ever be able to find a definitive answer.

On a positive note * here is your chance to upgrade to low E insulated glass. You might be able to replace the glass yourself if frame allows... (have local glass co make insulated to your measurements)

But, this is a good project to contract out... Let them be responcible for
exact measure and proper fit.
Thank you for all the information......great help for me

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