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amdspitfire 02-05-2008 05:33 PM

Need help with permit/city got a Stop Work Order.
 
I wasn't aware I had to get a permit for a re-roof and halfway through the job I received a stop work order (106.1) from my town. I went same day and got a permit for the work and called up inspectors to come inspect the property. The inspector that called me was the same guy that gave the stop work order and now says I have to pay double fee's because of the stop work order in place on the property.

What can I do to stop paying these people? Any other advice?

MinConst 02-05-2008 05:37 PM

I have no idea where you live but the inspector is the man you need to satisfy. You can stop paying these people when you make it right in their minds.

jerryh3 02-05-2008 05:38 PM

Just pay it. It's legal extortion. You could try pleading your case to the inspector, but I doubt it is going to work. Are you doing the work yourself? How much are the fees?

AtlanticWBConst. 02-05-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by amdspitfire (Post 95265)
I wasn't aware I had to get a permit for a re-roof and halfway through the job I received a stop work order (106.1) from my town. I went same day and got a permit for the work and called up inspectors to come inspect the property. The inspector that called me was the same guy that gave the stop work order and now says I have to pay double fee's because of the stop work order in place on the property.

What can I do to stop paying these people? Any other advice?

Pay it. You have no choice. They could fine you, they could make you rip it all off, they can do alot of things.

Making you pay double the cost of the fee is a slap on the wrist.
Some towns make you pay triple the cost.

It's a common "punishment" in alot of areas.

Many years ago, we had to pay a triple permit fee. We started repairing some boards on a deck, and ended up having to do more than that. Neighbor called the Town.

Triple fine was the town's policy. We paid it, had no problems with the inspector, he understood the situation and was very nice...

Now, we always call and ask the town, before any questions of permit needs arise.

Chris Johnson 02-05-2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 95270)
Many years ago, we had to pay a triple permit fee. We started repairing some boards on a deck, and ended up having to do more than that.


Ouch!!!! :oops:


I got dinged $ 50.00 one day many many years ago....on my own house :whistling2: that was embaressing going in to pay that and pull the permit considering I pulled permits in that township regularly.

amdspitfire 02-05-2008 07:44 PM

Everyones loves a visual, this is the house I just purchased and the one in question.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...8603Medium.jpg

The issue on hand is the aesthetic roof line that was added on the left hand side of the garage. It is 100% aesthetic and simply botled down to the existing roof. No structural changes were made. They want plans/drawing and more fees for that measly little addition.

To the original topic, I was able to get a permit as builder-owner but because of the stop work order can not continue work nor will the inspector come out to see the property till the adition is settled. Time to suck up to the inspector.

PKHI 02-05-2008 08:05 PM

I don't understand why your crying cause you broke the rules and got caught. I can almost guarantee had you pulled a permit like your supposed to, the inspector wouldn't have cared about your roofline, and by roofline are you refering to just the rake board on the gable, or the whole gable overhang?

amdspitfire 02-05-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PKHI (Post 95319)
I don't understand why your crying cause you broke the rules and got caught. I can almost guarantee had you pulled a permit like your supposed to, the inspector wouldn't have cared about your roofline, and by roofline are you refering to just the rake board on the gable, or the whole gable overhang?

In all honestly I had no clue roofing needed a permit. The whole gable is new, not the overhang though. It was just built and nailed to the existing roof.

Chris Johnson 02-05-2008 09:51 PM

You know, you even need a permit to change your dishwasher.

What you did is major compared to a dishwasher.

Don't know your location but I would get the fine paid, and get the inspection done before any weather gets on that. Suck it up, the inspector will dog you, he has more patience than you...it's not his house!!

amdspitfire 02-05-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Johnson (Post 95359)
You know, you even need a permit to change your dishwasher.

What you did is major compared to a dishwasher.

Don't know your location but I would get the fine paid, and get the inspection done before any weather gets on that. Suck it up, the inspector will dog you, he has more patience than you...it's not his house!!

Didn't realize pretty much everything needs permit! This must really piss you contractors off. I sent a nice email to the inspector and planner, lets see how they respond :D

Chris Johnson 02-06-2008 12:00 AM

I see your location, welcome to my neighborhood, I'm in Napa. You need a permit here for pretty much anything except paint and wallpaper!!!

Which municipality did you piss off?

amdspitfire 02-06-2008 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Johnson (Post 95394)
I see your location, welcome to my neighborhood, I'm in Napa. You need a permit here for pretty much anything except paint and wallpaper!!!

Which municipality did you piss off?

One almost as bad as Napa, Los Gatos. Can they come search inside the house in my case (w/warrant?)?

AtlanticWBConst. 02-06-2008 06:04 AM

Back in the 80's, we were pulled over in a company Box Truck by a state trooper doing commercial truck inspections. He pulled out a portable scale and weighed the truck. Came back and said: "Your registration is wrong. The truck is heavier than the the required limit for your registration category."

My business partner says, "Wow, I didn't know about that....When I bought the truck, I gave my insurance company the truck model, they went ahead and insured it in that category, and so I just registered it in that category."

We got a $200.00 ticket and were told by the officer: "Ignorance of the law, is no excuse....you have a responsibility to check".

As business owners and commercial truck owners, we had a responsibility to understand the law's requirements and follow thru, we didn't, and it legally cost us.
I guess the same may be said, if you are a home owner....

LawnGuyLandSparky 02-06-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by amdspitfire (Post 95316)
Everyones loves a visual, this is the house I just purchased and the one in question.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...8603Medium.jpg

The issue on hand is the aesthetic roof line that was added on the left hand side of the garage. It is 100% aesthetic and simply botled down to the existing roof. No structural changes were made. They want plans/drawing and more fees for that measly little addition.

Ahhh. So the truth comes out. It's not "just reroofing." Reroofing does NOT alter the asthetics with bolt-down additions.

Quote:

To the original topic, I was able to get a permit as builder-owner but because of the stop work order can not continue work nor will the inspector come out to see the property till the adition is settled. Time to suck up to the inspector.
Wait'll they do the full interior inspection and bag you for everything non original that never had a permit either...

LawnGuyLandSparky 02-06-2008 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlanticWBConst. (Post 95407)
Back in the 80's, we were pulled over in a company Box Truck by a state trooper doing commercial truck inspections. He pulled out a portable scale and weighed the truck. Came back and said: "Your registration is wrong. The truck is heavier than the the required limit for your registration category."

My business partner says, "Wow, I didn't know about that....When I bought the truck, I gave my insurance company the truck model, they went ahead and insured it in that category, and so I just registered it in that category."

We got a $200.00 ticket and were told by the officer: "Ignorance of the law, is no excuse....you have a responsibility to check".

As business owners and commercial truck owners, we had a responsibility to understand the law's requirements and follow thru, we didn't, and it legally cost us.
I guess the same may be said, if you are a home owner....

Another load of crap. It just so happens that lower weight class means cheaper registrations, right?


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