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Old 07-11-2011, 07:45 PM   #16
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Post #2 looks like an early version of a "Lineman's" pliers. It has three cutters and the square notch in the nose portion if for gripping two wires together for twisting.
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That looks like an old fencing plier which was a good general purpose cutting, bending and tying tool to have around when you were making a wire fence.
Fencing tool seems a very likely suggestion (I found a heavy-duty wire tensioning tool in the chest) - I'll have to do some further investigating of how such contraptions were used.


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Old 07-11-2011, 07:50 PM   #17
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Feather and wedges?

I don't think it would function well in either of those roles.
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Old 07-11-2011, 07:57 PM   #18
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Feather and wedges?

I don't think it would function well in either of those roles.
look around and see if you can find the feathers for the wedges...
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By the way, I might clean it up with some Murphy's soap, or something like that, but would not make any attempts beyond that at restoring the box. As for the bevel and other items, I have had great results maintaining the originality while making useful some of my dad's and granfathers tools, as well as others that I have picked up along the way, with a little motor oil and very fine steel wool, then rinsing the rusty residue off with WD40.
Have no fear, I ain't gonna touch the box - I love it just the way it is.

As for the tools, I've been taking the rust off the items I want to use in an electrolytic bath (a slow, messy process but no risk of removing sound metal) and then scrubbing and oiling or re-japanning as appropriate.
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look around and see if you can find the feathers for the wedges...
I really don't think that object I posted a picture of could be a wedge due to it's having one end twisted in what looks like a very purposeful manner (see the second, close-up picture I posted of it). I think it has to be some sort of drill. Unless they sometimes used drill-tips on wedges for some reason?

Edited to add: definitely no feathers around, I had my eyes peeled for masonry tools while unpacking the box.
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I really don't think that object I posted a picture of could be a wedge due to it's having one end twisted in what looks like a very purposeful manner (see the second, close-up picture I posted of it). I think it has to be some sort of drill. Unless they sometimes used drill-tips on wedges for some reason?

Edited to add: definitely no feathers around, I had my eyes peeled for masonry tools while unpacking the box.
Well it was a thought anyway…
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May be a furniture makers nut driver. In the day all threaded nuts were square. The adjustment would serve as a "stop" so as not to over-tighten the nut against the wood. Just guessing.
That's not a proper guess - you're totally just making that up on the fly


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Have you tried a bit in the end of the long piece? It may have considerable wear, but my guess is that the thumb catch allows you to turn the end piece, so that you can line up the flats, insert the bit, turn the end piece back in place, and have an extension for boring through larger timbers.
Edited to add: disregard my previous response, you were right, it is a bit extension!

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The last item is probably a hand made awl
So not a rock drill

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and, sadly, the items before that are similar to what many of here have in our boxes or drawers; accessory items for something else, of which you may or may not ever identify the mate , as it may even have been tossed at some point.
Man, I hate that. Why must people throw things out?!!

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Well it was a thought anyway…
If it's a handmade awl, then it might have been made from a wedge - that would explain it's weird dimensions which don't really make sense from the stand point of awl construction (starting narrower at the top, then getting wider).
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UDT 3:

I really, really hope someone knows what this is, because it's been driving me nuts trying to figure it out.

One end appears to be designed to be held by a brace, the other end - I don't know, maybe it fits over a nut of some sort?

And I have absolutely no clue what the complicated mechanism in the middle is supposed to accomplish - it slides up and down, and locks into position, and the amount of slide can be increased by partially unscrewing the two sections (but they can't be unscrewed to the point of coming apart).

Sliding the sections does not cause either end to rotate and there is no ratcheting mechanism involved.

ARRRRRG!!! What is this thing
That's a Yankee bit extension # 2150. You put the male end in the brace, and a bit in the female end. That screw mechanism is the chuck
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Saw some of those tools used in the movie Quest for Fire.
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That's a Yankee bit extension # 2150. You put the male end in the brace, and a bit in the female end. That screw mechanism is the chuck
WooHoo!

Looks like DexterII was right - that's a positive ID on the bit extension alright (I'm going to have to look for some bigger bits to try this sucker out):
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UDT (unidentified domestic tool) 1:

My first guess was that it was some sort of fancy wire cutter, but it has no cutting edges. I then though it might have been used as a crimper - but why would you need to crimp 3 things at once?

And there’s the matching ‘v’ notches in the upper and lower jaws (they form a square opening about the same size as the three pairs of offset notches).

Edited to add: has been identified as probable fencing tool
Jules, the fencing tool is a pair of pliers which has a sharp point sticking out on one side (to remove fence staples) and the other side has a solid flat spot used to whack the staples in. So, this one is not a fencing plier.

And that's a lovely old toolbox you have there, reminds me of one my dad built about 70 years ago.
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Last one - is this a hand drill for rock?

It feels like it's made from regular old iron, so I can't imagine it would be hard enough to drill rock, but not sure what else it could be. (I could really use a rock drill, so I may just give it a shot with this thing and see what happens.)

Edited to add: has been identified as probably a hand-made awl
Jules, a rock drill - or star drill as it's called - has several sharp edges fanning out from the center point on the tip of the tool. You whack it with a small hand sledge repeatedly while at the same time turning it slowly around. You can definitely make a hole in the rock, but it does take forever.

So this one is nothing to do with that. And it's definitely not a part of a set of feathers and wedges. I think L.V. might still carry those tools.

I agree it does look like a neanderthal awl of some sort, but I don't know what it would be used on. Possibly something to do with log house building? It's definitely not the sort of awl - if indeed that's what it is - that has been around for the last 100 years or so. I have a handful of tools which I inherited when mum passed away a few years ago some of which I have no idea what their use may be.
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Jules, the fencing tool is a pair of pliers which has a sharp point sticking out on one side (to remove fence staples) and the other side has a solid flat spot used to whack the staples in. So, this one is not a fencing plier.
No, you can get fence pliers with our without the "long point". The tell tale sign of a fence plier is the cutters on both sides. Plus the notch toward the front

What Jules has are clearly square nose fence pliers http://www.doitbest.com/Pliers-Coope...sku-326025.dib
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Fencing tool seems a very likely suggestion (I found a heavy-duty wire tensioning tool in the chest) - I'll have to do some further investigating of how such contraptions were used.
this design was originally patented simply as pliers, but became commonly known as square nose fence pliers

http://www.google.com/patents?id=uEx...page&q&f=false

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