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Telfair 07-02-2012 11:38 PM

My gate has become very tweaked
 
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It started out straight but seems to be getting worse? :eek:
Seems the strap don't help & might actually be a large part of whats pulling it up in that bottom corner.

Whats the easiest repair for this?
I have some ideas but wonder what you might recommend?

mae-ling 07-03-2012 02:11 AM

One solution - take off the cable, use flat metal making an X
May need to remake the frame part too.

Bonzai 07-03-2012 02:16 AM

Get a gate hardware kit and start over. The twigs aren't adding any structural integrity and the cable is twisting the frame.

ddawg16 07-03-2012 03:37 AM

How are those posts put into the ground? I think you have several issues. Part of the problem is that your never going to get a gate frame like that to stay plumb and square.....

biggles 07-03-2012 08:11 AM

the weight of the gate is going right down that cable.need to remove it or add another for an X so all the corners have a pull tension..how much does that weigh? can you lift it with one hand? might want to add another lenght of 2x4 in the gate where it swings on those hinges...

BigJim 07-03-2012 08:13 AM

The gate frame is not heavy enough, also treated 2X4s are bad to twist and curve but then so are 4X4s. If it is the cable pulling the frame out, put another cable on the other side of the gate to pull it back the other way.

Telfair 07-03-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jiju1943 (Post 956796)
The gate frame is not heavy enough, also treated 2X4s are bad to twist and curve but then so are 4X4s. If it is the cable pulling the frame out, put another cable on the other side of the gate to pull it back the other way.

That might just work? :)

I was actually thinking about placing some diagonal 2x4's in the frame, but might the 2nd cable alone fix it?

joecaption 07-03-2012 03:19 PM

As stated many differnat ways, that gate was build completly wrong in the first place, adding a brace will do nothing to "fix" that one.
If you Google "building a gate" there's hundreds of sites showing how to build one that should not sag.

mae-ling 07-03-2012 04:42 PM

Another cable is not a good idea.

If you like that style build a new one with a metal X brace on the back.
Can even re-use the branches from the old one.

You "MIGHT" (emphasis might, be able to just add an X-brace to that gate, although because it is already twisted that is probably not the case.

Telfair 07-03-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mae-ling (Post 957069)
Another cable is not a good idea.

If you like that style build a new one with a metal X brace on the back.
Can even re-use the branches from the old one.

You "MIGHT" (emphasis might, be able to just add an X-brace to that gate, although because it is already twisted that is probably not the case.

I'm not grasping this metal X can someone show me a pic of what they mean?

ddawg16 07-03-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Telfair (Post 957273)
I'm not grasping this metal X can someone show me a pic of what they mean?

Take your gate frame...draw an X across it....

But still will not solve your problem. It may keep it square, but it won't stay straight. The outside frame of the gate is nothing more than pressure treated 2x4's that look like they are screwed together. There is no way your going to keep them straight (vert). Not enough holding power with the screws into that soft wood.

If you want to do it right....go down to a wrought iron shop....have them make you a gate frame out of wrought iron....then you can hang your limbs on that.

kwikfishron 07-04-2012 06:29 AM

You’re going to need to start over.

Forget the pt lumber and use Redwood.

Make your center horizontal a 2x4 and install a 1x4 Redwood “let in brace”. Forget the metal, it looks too cheesy for what you’re going for.

One let in brace will keep it square but two, one on each side creating an X might look better.

The tighter the grain in the 2x4’s the better.

kwikfishron 07-04-2012 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jiju1943 (Post 956796)
treated 2X4s are bad to twist and curve but then so are 4X4s.

Actually Jim, that incised treated post is Fir and is pretty stable and is the norm out West.

In all my years I never met a Yellow Pine post until I moved to the Mid West. I never knew wood could move so much.

The 2x4’s in the gate look like what they call “outdoor wood” which is usually treated Hemlock. The Hemlock will twist, cup and check but not even close to the extent that I’ve seen with the Pine.

I've never seen treated Pine on the West Coast and hope I never do.

mae-ling 07-04-2012 11:15 AM

The Metal X - Take a strap of metal say 1.5" wide and 1/16th or so thick run it from top right to bottom left corner.
Then take another from the bottom right to the top left so you have an X. Can weld it or bolt it where it crosses.

As said one diagonal will do it but 2 will probably look better.

Can do it with wood but the larger size of the wood may not be the look you are after, Or maybe it is.


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