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Old 05-04-2008, 07:09 PM   #1
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My contractor wants to charge me $2600 to finish my basement ceiling. The ceiling is 280 sq. ft....it is a basic wood beam ceiling.

He plans to add 6 recess lights, 1 batt of r-13 insulation, and drywall boards. How the heck (considering he doesn't have to build around anything) does this cost $2600!!!

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Can't tell you because we can't see your basement. People come on this site all the time with such statements....and sometimes leave out pertinant information. We don't know the details, for example, most of the cost could address electrical. Example: IC rated can lights, additional panel, permit, inspection time, etc, etc...

Your best bet is to just get some other estimates from other contractors.

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Sounds high, but as stated above, we cannot see or evaluate what the bid comprises.....get 3 bids, and then compare or post them and we will tell you what we think, and don't leave out details.
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Yup....no way to tell from here
Could be cheap for the project for all we know

Best way to find out is get a few more bids/estimates

"How the heck...." could it cost more than you think it should?
Most people have no idea how much it costs to run a business
What did you think it would be?
I'm not trying to be a wise guy...just trying to find out what you thought it would be

For all I know this was bid high, and bid high for some other reason
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My basement ceiling looks like this..but not as large
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Yes bswain, it's all about the details. I had a home owner try to fully describe a bath remodel situation to me. She was totally convinced she had given me all the details via email so was not happy that I wanted to see the bathroom in person before I gave her an official estimate. Part of the situation was the demo work was already performed to save money (I have no problem helping any home owner save some money....makes it easier for me to help get my potential jobs). She was interested in adding 2 sconce lights and have a shower tiled. The way it was described to me was the electrical was there already and the shower was ready to rebuild. HOWEVER, when I got there, the electrical that "was there already" was a receptacle in the vaulted 12' ceiling and the demo'd shower had a ton of mold in the walls. My electrician quoted me $800 just to get wiring from the ceiling to the spot she wanted the sconces. And I haven't even mentioned the mold remediation.
Point is exactly what has been replied......all the details need to be considered before an accurate assessment can be given. Please get a few more estimates and report back. Can't hurt as the estimates should be free anyway.
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For one thing, it's going to take more than one roll on R-13 to insulate similar joists,
for another thing, are you sure that the contractor is using R-13?...and not R-30 (more cost) ?
Copper wiring (romex) is sky high right now, in terms of pricing.
Again, I think the bulk of the budget is probably going to the electrical work.

Another factor is if you are using a legitimate licensed contractor with insurance and workman's comp.
Such contractors have more over head costs than the fly-by-night contactors.
(FWIW: Their work is more likely to be done properly & by code, under warranty,
and they will come back to take care of an issue with their work, if one arises)

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he's a private, on-the-side guy...so there isn't any overhead. He does good work, but I think $2600 is rediculous for 280 sq ft.
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$9.29 per Sf to hang, tape and texture (paint?) a ceiling, including insulation and 6 ceiling cans? You can get to that Sf number pretty quickly, especially with the electrical work. 6 IC rated can lights alone will run you $30.00 + tax each at your local home center so that's $200.00 right there.
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...but I think $2600 is rediculous for 280 sq ft.
Why are you so sure that your contractor is charging a lot more than such a job is worth?
What are you basing that on?
a) Electrical cost cannot be determined simply based on sf.
b) Do you have electrical experience to base your pricing analyzation on?
c) As suggested previously, why not just get some more quotes for the same work.

Please let us know the other quotes that you end up getting.
Good Luck!

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My min. cost on the cans, from panel, 6 cans, lamps, trim, 1 switch, would be $800.
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My min. cost on the cans, from panel, 6 cans, lamps, trim, 1 switch, would be $800.

$800?? That's more than $600 for labor.
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I don't want to throw salt into an already open wound, just asking here...

Have you already signed on the line with the current contractor?

YES - then at some point you determined the price was reasonable for the services received.
Then this person is your contractor, suck it up and pay the man.
or
NO - take the opportunity to seek services elsewhere.
It's inexcusable for you to question his fees, anyone can charge what they want.
The kicker is, if you agree to pay. You have every right to say YES or NO to his quote.
This guy shot you a cost and you don't like it, go hunt yourself down another contractor.
Just because he does this stuff on the side doesn't = super low prices for quality work.
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$800?? That's more than $600 for labor.
Not really. Thats also overhead, markup, profit.
But I guess you can look at it any way you like.
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Not really. Thats also overhead, markup, profit.
But I guess you can look at it any way you like.

The materials are less than $200 at any big box. The rest is labor. How your accountant divides it up is irrelevant.

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