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02-09-2012, 06:50 PM   #1
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Is there a material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home. The home is 3400 sq ft with a full unfinish basement (13 course). The home will also have 17 ft ceilings in great room area other ceiling will be 9-10 ft.

02-09-2012, 07:06 PM   #2
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Not really. The lumberyard will gladly figure it for you.

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 02-09-2012, 08:06 PM #3 Member   Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hartfield VA Posts: 34,062 Rewards Points: 13,250 You do understand that's going to be a huge waste of lumber and sky high HVAC cost with those odd ball sizes and high ceilings.

 02-09-2012, 08:44 PM #4 Member   Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 30 Rewards Points: 31 What would be a more reasonable ceiling height; 12-13ft? for a high great room? Is 9 ft ceiling odd ceiling heights?
02-09-2012, 09:29 PM   #5
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 Originally Posted by jbillups What would be a more reasonable ceiling height; 12-13ft? for a high great room? Is 9 ft ceiling odd ceiling heights?
9' is a standard height (actually 10' is too) and I built a lot of houses with 18' great rooms. There's nothing wrong or unusual about that.

 02-09-2012, 10:20 PM #6 Member   Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hartfield VA Posts: 34,062 Rewards Points: 13,250 Standard lumber comes 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 lenghts. Sheetrock comes in 4' widths so any some you can design around that your going to save materials and money. You would be far better off spending the money to have someone design this for you to avoid making mistakes.
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02-09-2012, 10:37 PM   #7
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 Originally Posted by joecaption Standard lumber comes 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 lenghts. Sheetrock comes in 4' widths so any some you can design around that your going to save materials and money. You would be far better off spending the money to have someone design this for you to avoid making mistakes.
And 9' studs.
And 18' and 20' - standard.
And 54" wide sheetrock (x4=18').

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 02-09-2012, 10:37 PM #8 retired union carpenter   Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: PA Posts: 323 Rewards Points: 250 the "material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home" is in the design, blueprints, and spec sheets for the home. if you can't figure the materials needed from those? I'm afraid building it yourself is out of your league? __________________ as always, just my thoughts good luck....coupe/Larry take what helps? ignore the rest.
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02-09-2012, 10:39 PM   #9
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 Originally Posted by coupe the "material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home" is in the design, blueprints, and spec sheets for the home. if you can't figure the materials needed from those? I'm afraid building it yourself is out of your league?
Good point.

02-09-2012, 11:06 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by jbillups Is there a material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home. The home is 3400 sq ft with a full unfinish basement (13 course). The home will also have 17 ft ceilings in great room area other ceiling will be 9-10 ft.
I've been doing framing material lists for almost 30 years. It's not something you figure out overnight. You have to start from the top of the foundation and up til the last piece of wood on the house. You have to know every single piece of wood that goes into the house.
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02-24-2012, 12:21 AM   #11
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 Originally Posted by joecaption You do understand that's going to be a huge waste of lumber and sky high HVAC cost with those odd ball sizes and high ceilings.
This might be the case but if he is willing to go through with it then so be it, right?

 02-24-2012, 05:16 PM #12 journeyman carpenter     Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: nova scotia canada Posts: 3,221 Rewards Points: 1,058 another thing is, you also have to allow extra material for temporarily bracing walls and backing for fixtures. with this though some of the bracing can be used elsewhere once walls are locked in, though this wood can become warped from the tension of holding walls plumb. most blocking can just be offcuts but occasionally you will need extra lumber just for this depending on the design of the house. many local track home builders are notorious for not allowing for just this, they account for the least amount of material possilble to build the house and dont allow for bracing.. if your the framing contractor you have to buy that extra wood out of your profit margin... this is why so many trac home builders bankrupt subtrades so often here and why i stick to high end renovations and custom home building
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 Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk another thing is, you also have to allow extra material for temporarily bracing walls and backing for fixtures. with this though some of the bracing can be used elsewhere once walls are locked in, though this wood can become warped from the tension of holding walls plumb. most blocking can just be offcuts but occasionally you will need extra lumber just for this depending on the design of the house. many local track home builders are notorious for not allowing for just this, they account for the least amount of material possilble to build the house and dont allow for bracing.. if your the framing contractor you have to buy that extra wood out of your profit margin... this is why so many trac home builders bankrupt subtrades so often here and why i stick to high end renovations and custom home building
My biggest complaint with getting a package, they rarely send enough if any bracing

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