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jbillups 02-09-2012 05:50 PM

material calculation
 
Is there a material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home. The home is 3400 sq ft with a full unfinish basement (13 course). The home will also have 17 ft ceilings in great room area other ceiling will be 9-10 ft.

titanoman 02-09-2012 06:06 PM

Not really. The lumberyard will gladly figure it for you.

joecaption 02-09-2012 07:06 PM

You do understand that's going to be a huge waste of lumber and sky high HVAC cost with those odd ball sizes and high ceilings.

jbillups 02-09-2012 07:44 PM

What would be a more reasonable ceiling height; 12-13ft? for a high great room? Is 9 ft ceiling odd ceiling heights?

titanoman 02-09-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jbillups
What would be a more reasonable ceiling height; 12-13ft? for a high great room? Is 9 ft ceiling odd ceiling heights?

9' is a standard height (actually 10' is too) and I built a lot of houses with 18' great rooms. There's nothing wrong or unusual about that.

joecaption 02-09-2012 09:20 PM

Standard lumber comes 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 lenghts.
Sheetrock comes in 4' widths so any some you can design around that your going to save materials and money.
You would be far better off spending the money to have someone design this for you to avoid making mistakes.

titanoman 02-09-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption
Standard lumber comes 8, 10, 12, 14, 16 lenghts.
Sheetrock comes in 4' widths so any some you can design around that your going to save materials and money.
You would be far better off spending the money to have someone design this for you to avoid making mistakes.

And 9' studs.
And 18' and 20' - standard.
And 54" wide sheetrock (x4=18').

coupe 02-09-2012 09:37 PM

the "material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home" is in the design, blueprints, and spec sheets for the home. if you can't figure the materials needed from those? I'm afraid building it yourself is out of your league?

titanoman 02-09-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by coupe
the "material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home" is in the design, blueprints, and spec sheets for the home. if you can't figure the materials needed from those? I'm afraid building it yourself is out of your league?

Good point.

Joe Carola 02-09-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbillups (Post 849046)
Is there a material calculation formula for rough framing of a new construction home. The home is 3400 sq ft with a full unfinish basement (13 course). The home will also have 17 ft ceilings in great room area other ceiling will be 9-10 ft.

I've been doing framing material lists for almost 30 years. It's not something you figure out overnight. You have to start from the top of the foundation and up til the last piece of wood on the house. You have to know every single piece of wood that goes into the house.

diyjohn1234 02-23-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 849103)
You do understand that's going to be a huge waste of lumber and sky high HVAC cost with those odd ball sizes and high ceilings.

This might be the case but if he is willing to go through with it then so be it, right?

woodworkbykirk 02-24-2012 04:16 PM

another thing is, you also have to allow extra material for temporarily bracing walls and backing for fixtures.

with this though some of the bracing can be used elsewhere once walls are locked in, though this wood can become warped from the tension of holding walls plumb. most blocking can just be offcuts but occasionally you will need extra lumber just for this depending on the design of the house. many local track home builders are notorious for not allowing for just this, they account for the least amount of material possilble to build the house and dont allow for bracing.. if your the framing contractor you have to buy that extra wood out of your profit margin... this is why so many trac home builders bankrupt subtrades so often here and why i stick to high end renovations and custom home building

mae-ling 02-24-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by woodworkbykirk (Post 862240)
another thing is, you also have to allow extra material for temporarily bracing walls and backing for fixtures.

with this though some of the bracing can be used elsewhere once walls are locked in, though this wood can become warped from the tension of holding walls plumb. most blocking can just be offcuts but occasionally you will need extra lumber just for this depending on the design of the house. many local track home builders are notorious for not allowing for just this, they account for the least amount of material possilble to build the house and dont allow for bracing.. if your the framing contractor you have to buy that extra wood out of your profit margin... this is why so many trac home builders bankrupt subtrades so often here and why i stick to high end renovations and custom home building

My biggest complaint with getting a package, they rarely send enough if any bracing


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