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Old 10-06-2012, 12:54 PM   #1
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Decided to take down the old wood back door, to replace with a new steel door. So far I have found that the rough opening is 36", not 35 1/2, the person that installed the old door, face nailed the frame with 8 penny nails, none in the frame to hold to the framing.

I always wondered why it was kicking out at the left bottom, and now I know why. Only thing holding the frame on the sides, was the 3" screws that I placed in the hinges a year ago, and the two 3" screws in the dead bolt plate.

Yes, that is the original opening that I still have some finish work to make the new door brick molding blend into the old. By the time I got done, I had enough tools upstairs to make me wonder if any were left down in my workshop downstairs.


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Old 10-06-2012, 01:12 PM   #2
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Kind of like a birthday.....so many surprises.......

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That is one of the reasons I like wreckovating. You get to problem solve, did new home construction for a while, found it monotonous and boring, sure was easy though!
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Hired a guy one time had always worked for a builder. Everytime we would go to do something he would say "we have to tear this out it's not square, we have to tear this out it's not plumb, we have to tear this out it's not flat. I said welcome to my world, our job is to give it the appearance of being square, plumb, and flat. Don't know what happened but he didn't last long.
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None of the builders here, make anything square.
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our job is to give it the appearance of being square, plumb, and flat.
Perfection is always an illusion, that's the beauty of it.

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None of the builders here, make anything square.
It's the concrete boys, at least that's who we always blamed, and most of the time it was true.
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Still have to rehang the storm door, and trim out the door. After 9 hours of dealing with it, I would say that the new door is a lot better than the old wood door I had.
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Welcome to the club....

Renovating my almost 100 year old house. Their was a front porch added back in the mid 20's. It is a 4 season porch and typical that the foundation was not fully dug out or supported well with footings. The front door would stick from time to time and was very difficult to open in the winter with snow on the roof.
In the process of resupporting the floor joists with jack posts and rebuilding the porch floor joists and foundation, I decided to install a new pre-hung front door. When I pulled the old door frame out, it was obvious what a major part of the problem was. There were no jack studs OR a header... I ended up having to rebuild pretty much the whole front porch. Also found no headers over the windows,

I continually found similar construction techniques through the entire house. It has taken me two years and I am almost done.

So my whole point in sharing all this is to say - I don't think anyone back in those days looked beyond the here and now. It's obvious that they did not expect the house to still be standing 100 years later...

How long do we expect the homes we build today to last?
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It has been a on again, off again on our 70+ y/o house. Last year I ended up having someone else pull the windows out of our attic, since I was laid up from recent neck surgery at that time.
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None of the builders here, make anything square.

Ain't that the truth. No code in this county and not much common sense either.
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Ain't that the truth. No code in this county and not much common sense either.
Sometimes I wonder if people on here believe me when I say that we don't have building codes. At least you know what I'm talking about.
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I have lived a couple of places that didn't have building codes, well no inspectors.
Build new houses with no inspection. wierd.
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It's the concrete boys, at least that's who we always blamed, and most of the time it was true.

And to think, I used to like you Ron.............

Actually, if most of my fellow concrete contractor's here weren't slobs when it came to their standards, I'd probably have went out of business years ago for being too picky............
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I have lived a couple of places that didn't have building codes, well no inspectors.
Build new houses with no inspection. wierd.
In the cities here there are codes, In the rural areas, which is most of the county, there are no codes at all, except for septic tanks. Most of the counties in Missouri are like that.
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kinda the same here.
I went to get a permit from the building inspector when doing my basement, including cutting windows in concrete.
He ask a few questions and said you know what your doin, don't need permit. They are busy with all the commercial and business development.

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