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Harry Homeowner 02-04-2009 04:52 PM

Left or right hand door?
 
How do you tell if a door is a left or right hand door? are they refering to hinges or to the lock set? and from what perspective looking in or looking out?

RippySkippy 02-04-2009 04:56 PM

put your butt/back on the hinge side of the door jamb so your looking a the latch catch and the way the door swings....is the swing.

Termite 02-04-2009 05:00 PM

:yes: Rippy's way is the easiest.

troubleseeker 02-04-2009 06:20 PM

Never heard that one before. I always say to look at the door from the hinge side (so you see the hinge barrels). If the lock bore is on the left, it is a left hand door; if on the right, a right hand door.

Be carfull if trying to order exterior doors, especially an out swing unit, it is easy to mess up. As a diy, I would recommend taking a sketch of your situation to the supplier and ordering face to face. I recently received three Weathershield units that were hinged wrong, even though they were ordered by the mill suppliers own sales person. Seems they use a quirky nomenclature on their exterior units referring to rh/lh hinged, insted of rh/lh swing, which the mill shop person did not even know about

Just Bill 02-05-2009 07:11 AM

The butt to butt rule usually works, but most companies hand doors as looking in from the outside.

Maintenance 6 02-05-2009 07:27 AM

Back you butt up to the door on the inside. Reach out and touch the hinged edge of the door. Whichever hand physically touches the hinge is the hand of the door. If you can't touch the hinge itself, then it is a reverse door (opens out). Some pre-hung door manufacturers (Pella) have some screwed up nomenclature for handing that's contrary to the rest of the door and hardware industry. There may be others. Here's a quick link to door terms:
http://www.precisiondoors.com/door.htm

jaros bros. 02-05-2009 09:55 AM

Look at the door from the hinged side. If the doorknob is on the right it is right swing, and if it is on the left, a left swing. You also should mention whether it is an outswing or inswing door.

Josh Jaros

Willie T 02-05-2009 10:33 AM

This has always, for some odd reason, been a confusing issue. It needs not be. So I have to second the comment on Rippy's explanation. It is the bare bones simplest way to determine swing, bar none.
  • It's Butt-to-Butt
  • Open the door
  • Stand in the doorway wiith YOUR butt up against the Butt hinges of the door. (That's what they're called, "BUTT" hinges.)
  • Whichever way the door has already been "swung" is the SWING.
  • If the door is on your right, it's a "Right-hand Swing"
  • If the door is on your left, it's a "Left-hand Swing."
You can't get much simpler than "Butt-to-Butt".

cobracdn 02-06-2009 07:12 AM

We've always stood outside... hinges left.. left swing.. hinges right.. right swing. Trying to line your butt up to anything on site would lead to weeks of ridicule lol
Cheers

Willie T 02-06-2009 10:57 AM

Ive been a GC for 25 years, and I have had as many as 250 men working for me at one time, BUT.................. I still instruct in the most basic and simple terms I can envision. And to this day, my work gloves have an R and an L on the backs of them in magic marker. (It saves time) :wink: :whistling2:

I would certainly hope that any of us who have been in the business any length of time can see a door far across the room and tell you the size, style and swing at a glance. But our professional assumptions can sometimes leave an accountant or a dentist struggling to manage a home project almost totally lost. This isnt fair. :yes:

This is a DIY Forum, and I try not to expect anyone here to know any more about my trade than I do of their profession. True, some of my explanations are long and laboriously generic and basic. But we all know what they say about assuming something. (Throughout my life, I've already made an ass out of myself enough.) I suspect that if someone was on a job somewhere, trying to figure out a door swing, they would either not be too concerned about appearing less than knowledgeable about their attempts, or they would casually sneak their butts up to the hinge side of the door for a quick peep at the swing.:thumbup:

A lot of us teach and instruct or guide daily. And it all starts with a first, small step for many people we are hoping to help. :thumbsup: Just relax, and let 'em learn slowly.

allencd@cox.net 02-27-2009 01:18 AM

I'm a GC too, and butt to hinge jamb is the best way to tell if your not construction inclined. Then, you have RHR, LHR, too. which is, R for reverse. Reverse is to the outside of the dwelling or room. If the door swings into a room or dwelling, it's standard, not reverse.

steve1234 03-02-2009 10:08 PM

always use a picture to clarify. YOU may know the exact definiton, but the person you're communicating with may not. I ordered a bunch of interior doors and the guy taking the order was convinced he knew the swing definition. I went to make a payment before the order was placed, and brought my sketch.......we fixed the order before anything was made incorrectly!

allencd@cox.net 03-02-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by steve1234 (Post 239481)
always use a picture to clarify. YOU may know the exact definiton, but the person you're communicating with may not. I ordered a bunch of interior doors and the guy taking the order was convinced he knew the swing definition. I went to make a payment before the order was placed, and brought my sketch.......we fixed the order before anything was made incorrectly!





good job. I make the mistake often, of not so much as explaining things how they can understand, but explaining things how they CAN'T misunderstand.

bentod 03-02-2013 05:27 PM

Inside/outside
 
Saying to stand outside to tell the swing of a door is no help at all. For example:
If I stand outside my bedroom and look at the door the hinges are on the right.
If I stand outside my house and look at the door the hinges are on the right. However, one is LH and one is RH.

Use the butt to butt rule. Most people won't have to actually stand in the doorway to figure it out.

In case it wasn't already said, that is not why they are called butt hinges.:yes:


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