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Old 11-09-2011, 11:41 AM   #16
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www.smartscreenusa.com These are the ones I meant the Holmes uses. So you've got lots of choices now. Where we are the leaves are 90% down
YES !We are at that point, leaves are "done down"!!in another week thanks yes creeper i will be read next year .and yes Ron-it probably has been talked about many times here, but i wasn't here,-- and the way things change so fast anymore , theres something new everytime you turn around , so being refreshed about this is a good thing .thank you all.

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:14 PM   #17
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I have the plain old wire mesh type (came with the house). Surrounded by Poplar and other trees. I have to say these don't do jack. I think they actually make it harder to keep the gutters clean because I have to move them out of the way when I clean the gutters. The edges don't lie flat to the roof and stuff gets under them, and the holes are big enough that they let in a lot of silt and bits. I have literally scooped cups full of muck out of the upstream ends of the gutters with seedlings growing in them. I guess it could be worse, they do keep the big leaves out, but they are far from perfect.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:27 PM   #18
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I have the plain old wire mesh type (came with the house). Surrounded by Poplar and other trees. I have to say these don't do jack. I think they actually make it harder to keep the gutters clean because I have to move them out of the way when I clean the gutters. The edges don't lie flat to the roof and stuff gets under them, and the holes are big enough that they let in a lot of silt and bits. I have literally scooped cups full of muck out of the upstream ends of the gutters with seedlings growing in them. I guess it could be worse, they do keep the big leaves out, but they are far from perfect.
This is exactlly what i was thinking--- when i posted this thread, If theres not leaves and sticks, theres gonna be silt and mud from rain and snow, Man i'm glad you brought this up.

Is there anyone who has a fool- proof gutter and leaves problem that he has installed gutter guards and it really works great???????????

We'll see what kind of answers i get on this!!!! oh-fudge bob s
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Old 11-10-2011, 01:01 PM   #19
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Is there anyone who has a fool- proof gutter and leaves problem that he has installed gutter guards and it really works great???????????
No such thing.
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I believe your right. I think i'm just adding work if i install these?
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Nothing is fool-proof, but that does not mean that something does not really work.

In general, the ones that have *smaller* holes, like Leaf Relief, DO work. They don't get easily clogged, and they are designed so that leaves either slip off or dry up and blow off, and smaller items like maple seedlings wash off the edge.

I agree the cheap ones you get at the hardware store, the curved open mesh with the clips on them are worse than worseless.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:34 PM   #22
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I believe your right. I think i'm just adding work if i install these?
No...some save a little work...just none are fool proof and really work GREAT. I have tried plastic covers with holes (get clogged after a while). I have tried metal screens (get clogged after a while). I have tried brushes (get clogged and are messy to clean). I have tried gutta-guard (don't stay secured and gap is too small, allowing water to flow over). I now have a solid shield version, professionally installed. It is the best so far, but not as GREAT as I had hoped.

By my experience, all allow some material to get into gutters. They still require some cleaning out, or to be large enough gutters that debris flows through. Valleys can accumulate debris, causing water to run over, defeating purpose of gutters. All tend to increase tendency for ice damming. All require some level of maintenance, albeit reduced from open gutters.

Your experience may vary depending on types of trees and slope of roof.

By the way, I don't see much new in this area. Prior posts are still valid.
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No...some save a little work...just none are fool proof and really work GREAT. I have tried plastic covers with holes (get clogged after a while). I have tried metal screens (get clogged after a while). I have tried brushes (get clogged and are messy to clean). I have tried gutta-guard (don't stay secured and gap is too small, allowing water to flow over). I now have a solid shield version, professionally installed. It is the best so far, but not as GREAT as I had hoped.

By my experience, all allow some material to get into gutters. They still require some cleaning out, or to be large enough gutters that debris flows through. Valleys can accumulate debris, causing water to run over, defeating purpose of gutters. All tend to increase tendency for ice damming. All require some level of maintenance, albeit reduced from open gutters.

Your experience may vary depending on types of trees and slope of roof.

By the way, I don't see much new in this area. Prior posts are still valid.
Thank you for the reply, this does explain it better.

Bout the only reason i was thinking about this leaf guard stuff,[mine clean up in les than 20 minutes ] in my 100 long" home.I was getting up on the roof to much and got to thinking this might not be to good for it.So with the wife on one side and the roof on the other i was trying to get the best way and stay off the roof-----in fact i will carry this post up too "roofing" forum and see what they have to tell me , on this walking around on it. 2-3 times a yyear. thank you all for the very informative info on gutter guards cheers bob s
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This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters

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This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters


Good One!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amen to that scene, keepin em out Always good for a laugh!!!! thanks bob s
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Thank you for the reply, this does explain it better.

Bout the only reason i was thinking about this leaf guard stuff,[mine clean up in les than 20 minutes ] in my 100 long" home.I was getting up on the roof to much and got to thinking this might not be to good for it.So with the wife on one side and the roof on the other i was trying to get the best way and stay off the roof-----in fact i will carry this post up too "roofing" forum and see what they have to tell me , on this walking around on it. 2-3 times a yyear. thank you all for the very informative info on gutter guards cheers bob s
I had gutter guards installed above the second floor dormer windows for precisely this reason, as well as the fact that I'm getting too old to be comfortable trotting around up there. The first floor gutters I can clean out easily with a ladder and if I do it 3-4 time per year it takes me less than half an hour start to finish.
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This is a remodel were working on, these gutters and guards were installed less than a year ago. The guards are 4' sections with perferated 1/2" slits. The maple leaves from the neighbors tree seem to collect on top of the guards and render the gutters useless. But they're doing as advertised keeping the leaves out of the gutters

Can't really see what the openings look like but they look big enough to allow stuff to get caught in them. I think smaller openings work better.

And I think those photos are misleading. The idea behind perforated gutter guards is that leaves dry up and blow off of them (as opposed to being pushed over the edge as they are on solid guards). There are a lot of leaves strewn around the roof which tells me that there has not been a decent stiff breeze since all those leaves fell. It would probably blow most of them off. But it does look like those guards in particular would clog easily with smaller leaves and seed pods.
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WRONG, my friend (with all due respect)

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Cleans leaves, pine needles, maple seeds, pine cones and small varmints!

Works 24/7 365 days a year (just keep supplied with bananas).

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WRONG, my friend (with all due respect)

THE Perfect Gutter Guard!

The GUTTER MONKEY! from Ronco.

Cleans leaves, pine needles, maple seeds, pine cones and small varmints!

Works 24/7 365 days a year (just keep supplied with bananas).

Only $99.95

What happens when the neighbor takes shootin practice on him. Go lowes and get another guard
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I went looking at the flat ones at Lowe's today. Did not like them, due to they are plastic. I have the helicopters, and the stamped steel screens that I have on my gutters irritate the hell out of me during the Spring, but it is only a couple of weeks to deal with those buggers.

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