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Old 12-30-2013, 03:05 PM   #1
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So the good old fashioned tried and true lightbulb is to be banned as Jan.1 2014.

Ok I thought.. I will try to be eco friendly and save hydro. But when changing a bulb out in my sons room today a fresh one broke. The following is the recommended clean up process.

1 remove all living creatures from the area

2..open a window??? Its freaking minus 19 c ..OPEN A WINDOW ??? How on earth is that energy efficient??

3) wear facemasks...gloves...and change your clothes..deposit them in an airtight bag

So the light bulb is banned and they give us poison instead..is this a joke??

I'm heading to the store to stock up on incandescent..to heck with saving a few pennies and quite frankly I don't find that they last ANY longer.

Ok Rant over.

.http://www2.epa.gov/cfl/cleaning-broken-cfl-0





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Cleaning Up a Broken CFL

Steps to Take When a CFL Breaks




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Recommended steps:
Before Cleanup

  1. Have people and pets leave the room, and avoid the breakage area on the way out.
  2. Open a window or door to the outdoors and leave the room for 5-10 minutes.
  3. Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning (H&AC) system, if you have one.
  4. Collect materials you will need to clean up the broken bulb:
    • Stiff paper or cardboard
    • Sticky tape (e.g., duct tape)
    • Damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes (for hard surfaces)
    • Glass jar with a metal lid (such as a canning jar) or a sealable plastic bag(s)
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Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces

  1. Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place debris and paper/cardboard in a glass jar with a metal lid. If a glass jar is not available, use a sealable plastic bag. (NOTE: Since a plastic bag will not prevent the mercury vapor from escaping, remove the plastic bag(s) from the home after cleanup.)
  2. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. Place the used tape in the glass jar or plastic bag.
  3. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels in the glass jar or plastic bag.
  4. Vacuuming of hard surfaces during cleanup is not recommended unless broken glass remains after all other cleanup steps have been taken. [NOTE: It is possible that vacuuming could spread mercury-containing powder or mercury vapor, although available information on this problem is limited.] If vacuuming is needed to ensure removal of all broken glass, keep the following tips in mind:
    • Keep a window or door to the outdoors open;
    • Vacuum the area where the bulb was broken using the vacuum hose, if available; and
    • Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister) and seal the bag/vacuum debris, and any materials used to clean the vacuum, in a plastic bag.
  5. Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials, including vacuum cleaner bags, outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.
  6. Next, check with your local government about disposal requirements in your area, because some localities require fluorescent bulbs (broken or unbroken) be taken to a local recycling center. If there is no such requirement in your area, you can dispose of the materials with your household trash.
  7. Wash your hands with soap and water after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing bulb debris and cleanup materials.
  8. Continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the H&AC system shut off, as practical, for several hours.
If you have further questions, please call your local poison control center at 1-800-222-1222.
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Cleanup Steps for Carpeting or Rugs

  1. Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place debris and paper/cardboard in a glass jar with a metal lid. If a glass jar is not available, use a sealable plastic bag. (NOTE: Since a plastic bag will not prevent the mercury vapor from escaping, remove the plastic bag(s) from the home after cleanup.)
  2. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. Place the used tape in the glass jar or plastic bag.
  3. Vacuuming of carpeting or rugs during cleanup is not recommended unless broken glass remains after all other cleanup steps have been taken. [NOTE: It is possible that vacuuming could spread mercury-containing powder or mercury vapor, although available information on this problem is limited.] If vacuuming is needed to ensure removal of all broken glass, keep the following tips in mind:
    • Keep a window or door to the outdoors open;
    • Vacuum the area where the bulb was broken using the vacuum hose, if available, and
    • Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister) and seal the bag/vacuum debris, and any materials used to clean the vacuum, in a plastic bag.
  4. Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials, including vacuum cleaner bags, outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of. Avoid leaving any bulb fragments or cleanup materials indoors.
  5. Next, check with your local government about disposal requirements in your area, because some localities require fluorescent bulbs (broken or unbroken) be taken to a local recycling center. If there is no such requirement in your area, you can dispose of the materials with your household trash.
  6. Wash your hands with soap and water after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing bulb debris and cleanup materials.
  7. Continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the H&AC system shut off, as practical, for several hours.
If you have further questions, please call your local poison control center at 1-800-222-1222.
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Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rugs: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming

  1. The next several times you vacuum the rug or carpet, shut off the H&AC system if you have one, close the doors to other rooms, and open a window or door to the outside before vacuuming. Change the vacuum bag after each use in this area.
  2. After vacuuming is completed, keep the H&AC system shut off and the window or door to the outside open, as practical, for several hours.

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Old 12-30-2013, 03:56 PM   #2
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What year is this?

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What year is this?
No Kapeesh..

Do you mean (1) what year are we currently in ??

or do you mean(2) what year is this to take place??

1) 2013

2) 2014..as in tomorrow night
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More like I thought we were done with incandescent vs CFL overreaction / hysteria like, 3 years ago.

If you honestly spend more than 8 seconds total in your entire life worrying about light bulbs you should talk to someone.
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apparently in Canada the 75 and 100 watt incandescents are going to be not imported or allowed Jan 1/2014. Jan 1/2015 is the cutoff date for 40 and 60 watt incandescents. Europe has been that way for years and Canada is following and I imagine the US will get there too.
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U.S.A.has a ban starting January 1 also----

There is a bit of mercury in those bulbs----We will all become 'The Mad Hatter' soon---
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More like I thought we were done with incandescent vs CFL overreaction / hysteria like, 3 years ago.

If you honestly spend more than 8 seconds total in your entire life worrying about light bulbs you should talk to someone.
No hysteria here, but I must have missed that particular uproar. Things take a while to reach us up here dontcha know. Just the same thanks for the advice ...I will run it by my shrink

However I do not plan on having any mercury vapour bombs in my home.
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Mercury is not good for young children.
(You know - like "creeper" and "--M--"!)
Us old people just figure -
it's going to be this or that - that's going to - "run us to ground"!

We just bought a whole mess of incandescent bulbs!
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yep creeper and --M--.......spring chickens
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More like I thought we were done with incandescent vs CFL overreaction / hysteria like, 3 years ago.

If you honestly spend more than 8 seconds total in your entire life worrying about light bulbs you should talk to someone.
Oh, I dunno... if you have a larger size house or even a small facility for a business there are some non-trivial costs involved, both for electricity cost savings break even time and in some cases, just challenging locations to even change bulbs. And yeah, there's concern about the CFL mercury. (Not to mention lighting design issues for places it matters or people care.)

Thing is, CFLs are bad as it turns out. And quality LEDs are still too expensive and in some cases not ready for prime time. (We've had a couple that seemed reasonably priced from one of the big box stores just crap out immediately. Maybe a problem with the fixture, but still, a disappointing hassle for something that shouldn't have to take 8 seconds to consider.) And some of the new bulbs require upgrades to automated switches to work properly. So it kind of does bear some thought. We're actually making sure we've got a bunch of the plain ole' simple style on hand for the places they make the most sense for us for the medium term future.

Like so many things, it's just become stupidly complicated. Used to be you'd just buy the wattage bulb you needed, maybe with a desired color coating, and that was that. We may consider going back to candles.

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I love LED lighting they are way better then the floresent bulbs last for ever nothing to burn out, and is almost a very natural light even comes in a soft white light.
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Eating tuna can be more of a mercury threat than any cfl
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Eating tuna can be more of a mercury threat than any cfl
Precisely..thats why I don't have exploding tuna bombs hanging from my son's lighting fixtures

Really..if the gov't is going to ban something that has worked well for decades then they should not limit my choices to mercury anything.
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Cree9.5-Watt (60W) Warm White LED Light Bulb (1-Pack)
$15.97 $15.97

This price for one bulb is not an option
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Florescent lights hurt my eyes. Guess I will be wearing sunglasses all the time. And the CFLs don't last much longer than incandescents in regular use.

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