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Old 09-29-2013, 09:28 AM   #16
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Like all trades ---the best ones are known and respected by the other trades-----

That is your best source for finding subs--

Painters know the good drywall and trim guys---

Framers can tell you about the best concrete workers---

You see how this works----when I need a new sub--I ask another contractor or go to the supply houses and get names----Mike-----
I did that when I built my house. And it worked pretty well. But you have to be more cautious when a guy you recommends a guy they know and that guy recommends a guy he knows. You can't get too far from the guy you know.

My biggest problem in finding competent help, despite being in the trades, is that I haven't worked on a residential job since 1986. I was surprised how many commercial guys either couldn't do the work or just didn't want to do it. HVAC work on a house is too small for commercial contractors. I've never seen cast stone veneer installed on a commercial job and even real stone veneer is rare. Commercial roofers couldn't be bothered with a residential job. So I've been a bit handicapped finding guys I work with that would do the job.

Interesting comments on Angie's List. I've never used it and knew nothing about it other than that contractors were supposed to be rated only by their customers.

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Old 09-29-2013, 10:25 AM   #17
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For flooring contractors, stay away from guys who do mainly commercial work, they usually work with different products than residential installers. Also be cautious about the big box stores. Some are good, some are horrible. Ask friends, relatives and neighbors for independent contractors. And be prepared to wait a little while. Most, good independent flooring installers stay booked. Before I semi-retired, I was always booked up for 6 weeks. The calls I get now are from people who don't want anyone else and are willing to wait for me.
The stores don't charge as much for installation as an independent, but you get what you pay for. I made a living for a couple years just going behind big box installers and doing repairs and restretches.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:52 PM   #18
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For flooring contractors, stay away from guys who do mainly commercial work, they usually work with different products than residential installers.
I've noticed the same thing with commercial masons as well. I've worked with a bunch of them in the past, and it's just an entirely different world. If I had more than one of them helping us lay block in a basement, I'd literally have to watch them the whole time to ensure they weren't skipping/missing anything. SOme helped me on several basement and never caught on. Other's just did terrible work, which seemed strange to me seeing as they likely laid a heck of a lot more block in a year then we did. As you said, it's just a whole different gig..........
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Yes, I see where this is going, back to the same scenario.

Let's say the home owner knows no one so a yellow page search begins to find someone to repair a rotted porch for instance. He/she finds a contractor listed and he has a BBB OK because any or all references were by another home owner that didn't have a clue either as to good or poor work practices.

This contractor has a brother in-law that can do a portion of the work and a cousin with a wheelbarrow that does any concrete work needed. Do you see where this is going? These types of deals are on the local news weekly and sometimes daily.

I sure hope the OP finds an answer because there are thousands of home owners the need it too.
OK they know no contractors surely they have family members or friends that have had work done they could ask if they liked or didn't like. If you need a painter go to a paint store and talk to the employees there. If you want a carpenter go to a lumber yard. It's kind of like buying a new car, if I am interested in a new chevy camaro and I see someone driving one I will ask him if he likes it, then why or why not. I feel for any large purchase or project you should do your due diligence before laying out your cash.
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OK they know no contractors surely they have family members or friends that have had work done they could ask if they liked or didn't like. If you need a painter go to a paint store and talk to the employees there. If you want a carpenter go to a lumber yard. It's kind of like buying a new car, if I am interested in a new chevy camaro and I see someone driving one I will ask him if he likes it, then why or why not. I feel for any large purchase or project you should do your due diligence before laying out your cash.
Driving a vehicle and even painters are much different that having major construction (much of which could be hidden depending on the type of work). So you have a family member who had their basement redone and it looks great and seems to be functional. So they refer the person. Now what they don't know are all the corners that were cut and hidden behind drywall etc, poor wiring and/or plumbing practices, etc.

That's how I got a contractor who walked out on a job. A family member used them and recommended them.

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I hired a flooring Guy on the last laminate floor we had in the living room. The job was scheduled for 3 days . Long story short we spent two days working on his van. He installed the floor with one helper in 6 hours on the 3rd day.lol
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I hired a flooring Guy on the last laminate floor we had in the living room. The job was scheduled for 3 days . Long story short we spent two days working on his van. He installed the floor with one helper in 6 hours on the 3rd day.lol
Well it took 3 days.

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