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Old 01-11-2012, 07:30 PM   #16
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I don't post a lot, but I do stop in frequently.

mostly for drywalling tips, but I'm on to flooring now. I like to peruse the electrical forums too.

My only pet peeve is when a pro chimes in and the only advice they give is to get a pro to do it. Especially for items that a homeowner can legally do in their municipality. Everyone has to learn sometime. I like it when I see a totally clueless person get some good sound advice and be able to complete a project they never thought they could.
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As a moderator I work hard to stop the belittling and 'hire a pro' crap---This is a DIY site,right?

Why do the grumpy crabs and jokesters have to put in their 2 cents--

I hate insulting and belittling---this is a great site for information--
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At work we use a message board strictly for Ford/Merc/Lincoln technicians. You can ask questions, get advice, find out about known issues and get ideas on troubleshooting the real head scratchers, same thing that's going on here.

The one ? wonders are a HUGE problem on that board as well. Someone will ask for help, and other techs across the country will take time out of their workday to contribute ideas and experience...only to have the OP never reply with the result or what the fix ended up being. Very frustrating!

Side note: I enjoy this forum much more than the work forum. I think it's cool to see what other people are doing and the ideas they bring to life. Helps give me ideas since I'm still in the 'saving money for renovations' stage ;-)
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I'm with ddawg16 - if an answer doesn't come back to them within a short time they've probably found a solution elsewhere on the interwebs.

I like getting email notifications letting me know someone has posted on a thread I'm interested in or have offered my two cents on. We all learn something new because of different approaches.

Even if the original poster never returns, everyone's collective advice adds to the "institutional knowledge" of the forum and that's a good thing.

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I pretty much avoid even reading threads about " can I take this wall down", accompanied by no details or pics.
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I don't post a lot, but I do stop in frequently.

mostly for drywalling tips, but I'm on to flooring now. I like to peruse the electrical forums too.

My only pet peeve is when a pro chimes in and the only advice they give is to get a pro to do it. Especially for items that a homeowner can legally do in their municipality. Everyone has to learn sometime. I like it when I see a totally clueless person get some good sound advice and be able to complete a project they never thought they could.
This does hit a nerve with me also, it really grips me when some says "you need and engineer or an architect" at the drop of a hat, when there is a fix and can be explained by someone who does know. Sometimes the "get an engineer or architect" is by some one who doesn't have a clue how to fix it and just feels the need to say something to look big, or they are an architect or an engineer. I am sure this will fire some up but it is the way I feel. Sometimes when a "pro says get a pro" is because they don't know the answer.

Another thing that will really fire me up is someone being rude or trying to make a person look stupid by making uncalled for remarks. Just an example, a little lady was asking for help with some ceiling joists and an "engineer" popped in and was really rude to the lady and told her she needed to hire an engineer. I don't guess the brilliant engineer had ever seen a 16 foot wide ceiling in a garage before. I got to shut up, I am getting ticked all over again. sorry to rant here.
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I am a carpenter and sometimes the best advice is get a pro, someone who can be there and look at it, so much easier to tell in person the by pics on the net. But I do agree for simple things an Engineer is probably not needed. I have found people who come and ask instead of just going ahead and butchering it are usually on the cautious side and will over do something, and not under do it.
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What about the poster who asks a question you have already answered a dozen times? Why don't they just use "search"?
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What about the poster who asks a question you have already answered a dozen times? Why don't they just use "search"?
I think a lot of people don't even know about the search feature.

Also, I've found - on a couple automotive forums - that the search features don't always work well, if at all. On a Volvo forum, I was recently trying to determine if I should install a 180 or 195 degree thermostat. Searched high & low and found absolutely nothing. I can't imagine why.
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Or when someone asks about smashing insulation down because they're putting plywood on the ceiling joists for storage above a garage...and people start drilling him about his knowledge about loads and spans and structural engineers and permits.

That wasn't their question.

I wouldn't come back either.
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Or when someone asks about smashing insulation down because they're putting plywood on the ceiling joists for storage above a garage...and people start drilling him about his knowledge about loads and spans and structural engineers and permits.

That wasn't their question.

I wouldn't come back either.
You are right, to a point. But what if some of us spotting something having to do with loads and spans did not say something? Are you saying that because this is a DIY site, those of us who know you can only plunk 5 elephants on a stretch of a single 2x6 roofing rafter should not comment? And what if those licensed to contract know how to dance with inspectors around silly things like permits so a DIYer does not accidentally void homeowner insurance just to start? What if we encounter someone wondering why a drill bit will not work when it hits the protective plates our sparky brothers hid? What would you suggest our role on this site be? Should we just leave it willy nilly to DIYers?

I love the DIY concept but God help us all, if you keep bashing pros that may know things and are just trying to help. Of course, speaking without permission for my Bubbas. We are opinionated. Not one of the special people I have worked with has been unwilling to try a new tool or even can of paint. Once.

You also have to get over that this has become a Phishing site. More news releases are written by novices, every damned day, then you can imagine.

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I am a carpenter and sometimes the best advice is get a pro, someone who can be there and look at it, so much easier to tell in person the by pics on the net. But I do agree for simple things an Engineer is probably not needed. I have found people who come and ask instead of just going ahead and butchering it are usually on the cautious side and will over do something, and not under do it.
I for sure do agree with you.
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I just want to say that I am single woman with little do-it yourself experience and therefore, have little to contribute. I have asked questions, but mainly read the forum so I know what to ask contractors. That's been very helpful! I've spent a fair amount of time reading about finishing basements in past few months and discovered the Building Science info because someone was kind enought to post it. So...thanks to all of you who answer questions! BTW, I found it thru a google search.
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I just want to say that I am single woman with little do-it yourself experience and therefore, have little to contribute. I have asked questions, but mainly read the forum so I know what to ask contractors. That's been very helpful! I've spent a fair amount of time reading about finishing basements in past few months and discovered the Building Science info because someone was kind enought to post it. So...thanks to all of you who answer questions! BTW, I found it thru a google search.

And you are exactly the type of person this forum is for.....and kudos to you for jumping in and doing the job.....now all you need is a guy who cooks and does dishes...
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