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1910NE 12-27-2011 03:04 PM

How much????
 
I'm not sure which gets old more quickly; (new) members asking how much their project is going to cost, or (old) members jumping down their throats about it. There has to be a better way..

Maybe it would be easier to just flag/report such posts to the moderators, who could inform the OP that such topics are inappropriate? I know that sounds like more work for the mods, but it seems like they end up involved in most of those posts anyway. Or, some kind of "in your face" sticky which new members are forced to read before they can post?

Of course, the easiest way would be to just ignore those posts. Without replies, they will disappear fast enough...

Anyway, happy holidays to everyone!

ddawg16 12-27-2011 03:12 PM

I still consider myself a newbie and I'm already done with that question as well....

But, funny you should mention it.....I posed the same question to the mods....I wrote up a general response that basically says...."This is a DIY site....if you want to know how much it cost to have someone do it....go to the yellow pages"...

Anyway, I wrote it up....and a couple of guys are looking it over....it may go out for some general input from the others...and if usefull enough....made a sticky....then we can just say "Go here for your answer".

More Power! 12-27-2011 03:23 PM

You know what you really see a lot of, on just about every web forum for every topic or interest on the web? People complaining about how other people use the forums ;)

Jim

Bud Cline 12-27-2011 03:25 PM

It happened again earlier today and this is what DangerMouse posted. He says this is the uniform response.

Thank you for posting your question on the DIY Chatroom.
Questions involving pricing, such as – “How Much” certain projects cost (i.e. - certain repairs, renovations, square-footage pricing, an addition, a decks, etc., etc.) – cannot be properly answered simply by information posted on an Internet forum (regardless of how much information is supplied in a particular post). There are many, many variables, which also involve site visit(s), existing conditions, final designs, local-rates, material preferences, etc.
Pricing for materials may be determined at your local supplier(s). Prices for subcontracted work are best determined by getting legitimate local contractors to submit written estimates (3 are suggested) and always checking references.
The industry generally suggests allowing a minimum of 20% buffer, over the assumed budget, for incidentals, unexpected points, material overages, etc.
We encourage you to continue to post other DIY related questions on this site.

The issue is that no matter what is said early out to discourage the question there are still regulars here that insist on jumping into the mix and answering the question anyway. They just don't seem to get it.

oh'mike 12-27-2011 03:43 PM

Were all working on it---We're as tired of the posts as anybody---Bud and Ddawg got the ball rolling--We will have the solution soon enough---Mike----

Ironlight 12-27-2011 03:50 PM

Maybe start a new category called "How much will it cost? Pricing estimates" and put a sticky called "READ BEFORE POSTING" with a disclaimer like Danger's.

user1007 12-27-2011 05:13 PM

People should be more open to the concept of Math and things like derivatives and integrals. Wolfram Research still runs a free integral site I think.

If it is x miles to to mars, how many yards of pink flannel does it take to make pajamas for a hippo?

I do think posters come here expecting some basic help with cost problems but how in the World can such questions be answered without knowing all the variables.

Still drives me nuts that the system running this site does not force an answer to basic geography with sign up. I never would but if I dared suggest costs for things based on where I am compared to say, Paris, TX? Would be absurd. And irrelevant.

oh'mike 12-27-2011 05:18 PM

Precisely---As useless as asking was a meal will cost in a restaurant---

Bud Cline 12-27-2011 05:42 PM

If they would come with some details and information it may be different but they are so simple and ask minimal questions and want factual answers. I can understand they don't know what to ask maybe but c'mon. "How much will it cost to drywall my basement"? And someone is supposed to make a guess with that information? It's easier just to have a disclaimer and stick to it.

Big Stud 12-27-2011 05:51 PM

I completely agree with all that has been said about not being able to price out someones job for them on a forum like this. That is exactly why I would just not respond to this type of post.

However ........... I just read through all the terms of service and posting rules. Nowhere does it say it is generally not a good idea to ask "how much?"

Mabey if it was added to the basic posting rules, you would see far less of this type of post.

I have seen replys to some of these how much posts get a little ugly when all that is needed is to suggest that it is impossible to answer the question that was asked.

Just MHO,

rusty baker 12-27-2011 06:33 PM

Contractor Talk closes those threads and I think they send them over here.:laughing:

Bud Cline 12-27-2011 06:37 PM

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Mabey if it was added to the basic posting rules, you would see far less of this type of post.
I think that is the plan once they decide on the jargon they want to use.

Quote:

I have seen replys to some of these how much posts get a little ugly when all that is needed is to suggest that it is impossible to answer the question that was asked.
That wouldn't be any fun.

user1007 12-27-2011 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 804827)
That wouldn't be any fun.

Bud, I cannot believe your cynical attitude at times.:laughing: Who told you forums like this are supposed to be fun!?:laughing:Get a grip bubba.

Bud Cline 12-27-2011 06:59 PM

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Who told you forums like this are supposed to be fun!?
Where is it written they aren't supposed to be fun. :eek: If it paid better maybe some rules would be more stringently adhered to. :laughing: Life is too short to be so serious about everything all the time.

user1007 12-27-2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bud Cline (Post 804845)
:laughing: Life is too short to be so serious about everything all the time.

Indeed. And you know, if I can make someone giggle, smile or maybe even laugh out loud once every day. It all works out. :laughing:


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