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Old 04-29-2013, 11:37 AM   #1
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http://imgur.com/a/Y3pwR I worry this deck will hurt someone, I found the pictures online and do not know the person. I am fearful that this deck will pull from the wall and hurt someone. Never mind the 4x4 posts, those foundation blocks are dangerous, to say the least.

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I'm willing to bet that it will last a lot longer than you think.

Yea...the big issue is the blocks....but I don't see the thing collapsing and killing a bunch of people...instead, it will start to sag....and at some point someone will point out the issues and they will fix it.

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Old 04-29-2013, 12:36 PM   #3
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Concrete blocks?!?
That's a good foundation!

Don't see no braces on the 4 X 4's?!?
"House of cards"?!?
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Concrete blocks?!?
That's a good foundation!

Don't see no braces on the 4 X 4's?!?
"House of cards"?!?
Look how they did those 4x4's....they go up and are part of the guard rail.

Because it's anchored against the house....the absence of cross bracing is not a bad is it could be.

Would I do it that way? No.....but I've also seen a lot worse.
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Look at the last picture. It looks like they made a little bit of support for the concrete overhang where the deck meets the house. Look closely. It looks like that 4x4 is under the concrete overhang and not the deck.

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What are you all saying is so bad?

Posts extending up to become part of the railing - is that a problem? I thought that's normal. If not, why not?

Cross bracing is missing? Where? Are you talking diagonal bracing on the posts to prevent a scissoring sort of collapse? I don't see that's possible being affixed to the house in two directions.

Footings... If those aren't poured with post bases set into them, I think that's a problem. But that's all I spotted. Otherwise I think it looks good.
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You just found a random set of pictures of a deck on the Internet and decided to worry about it? Can you even imagine how many unsafe structures there are out there? Why worry about some stranger who isn't asking for your help or input?
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All we were doing was making some comments on something, someone
constructed.
I don't seem to see, too many bolts or joist-hangers -
Is that a problem?!?

Not bad for 1 and 1/2 days of work -
If you want to do it wrong!!
(Bet there was no permit! - Ya think?!?)
Ha, ha, ha!

(I hope with the success of this experience - they don't move on to multi-story decks! -I don't think that's a "concrete"
over-hang/cantilever)

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Look at the last picture. It looks like they made a little bit of support for the concrete overhang where the deck meets the house. Look closely. It looks like that 4x4 is under the concrete overhang and not the deck.

can't see it in this picture but ther is a 2x4 nailed to the 4x4 to suport the over hang and its not concrete. they had what looks like particale board for the deck on the covered section
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I agree, it was poorly constructed to not pass minimum prescriptive code for decks; http://www.awc.org/Publications/DCA/DCA6/DCA6-09.pdf

1/2 the loads for new deck are on old cantilevered house joists, all posts are wrong attachment to beams, beams are single member- doubles required, no post bases to concrete, concrete not required depth to below frost line, footings within 5' of house same depth as house footings, over-spanned "beams" for loads, joist hangers missing, ledgers/brick attachment not per code, picket spacing and lower rail spacing/deck over 4" maximum, handrail under 36" minimum height, house corner windows now require safety glazed, not mentioning the screendoor hinge placement...

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Jessh! - Gary!
So critical!?!
Looks "cute" - don't it?!?

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