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Old 02-06-2013, 06:08 AM   #1
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Guys,

I am new to this forum and i am also a new home owner. My wife and I closed on our home 2 days ago. Can you guys let know what i need to correct this problem with my house. I have attached 2 pictures. I'll let to fix it myself but I don't know what tools and parts i need.

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Old 02-06-2013, 06:25 AM   #2
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I think it will be best to leave those alone until spring---

Both are done completely wrong--and if repaired in the same way--will fail again.

Here is why---

Water freezes----those are drains---so when the water freezes --the pipes will fill with water--freeze and burst the pipes or down spouts.

You need to create a 'free fall drain'-----so if the pipe under the ground (the receptor)freezes--- the feed pipe can over flow harmlessly to the ground.

Think of a faucet and a sink----

What is that white PVC pipe? I hope that isn't your sump pump outlet----if it is let us know---Sump outlets must never be able to be blocked---if they do, often the piping inside the house will blow apart--creating an indoor fountain.

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I think it will be best to leave those alone until spring---

Both are done completely wrong--and if repaired in the same way--will fail again.

Here is why---

Water freezes----those are drains---so when the water freezes --the pipes will fill with water--freeze and burst the pipes or down spouts.

You need to create a 'free fall drain'-----so if the pipe under the ground (the receptor)freezes--- the feed pipe can over flow harmlessly to the ground.

Think of a faucet and a sink----

What is that white PVC pipe? I hope that isn't your sump pump outlet----if it is let us know---Sump outlets must never be able to be blocked---if they do, often the piping inside the house will blow apart--creating an indoor fountain.
According to my inspector, he said that those pipes are the gutters - I might be wrong. Also there is moisture in the basement due to grading around the perimeter of the house. I'll take a picture of the PVC pipe on the other side of the house and I think the sump pump pipe is on the other side as well. Ill be working on the house tomorrow and will post some more pictures as well.

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:14 AM   #4
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Add your location to your profile. It will be spring here on Sunday. The first picture I would replace the whole downspout(2x3 "). You maybe able to tap that plastic fitting up enough to hold the downspout in place. The second picture you need to replace that length of pipe as well. You could silicone a cut open beer can to the hole.
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According to my inspector, he said that those pipes are (for) the gutters -
I might be wrong.
The sheet metal is the downspout from the rain gutter (at roofline).
The pipe is sch 20 PVC landscaping & irrigation pipe.

The idea of this is OK enough... the install was done poorly.

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Also there is moisture in the basement due to (poorly done) grading around the perimeter of the house.
What you have here is the result of a RE agent telling a homeowner "you need to do something about this (X or Y or Z) problem before we have buyers and inspectors looking at the house".

Then the owners scurry around trying to take care of the twenty maintenance and upkeep tasks they have been putting off for twenty years over the course of a week or weekend... attempting to make the 20 situations LOOK like they have been dealt with or never existed in the first place. It's home improvement work as theater... like on the TV shows.

Now you get to UN-do most of their work and then to RE-do it.
Hopefully your efforts will see it all properly done.

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The sheet metal is the downspout from the rain gutter (at roofline).
The pipe is sch 20 PVC landscaping & irrigation pipe.

The idea of this is OK enough... the install was done poorly.



What you have here is the result of a RE agent telling a homeowner "you need to do something about this (X or Y or Z) problem and them scurrying around making the situation LOOK like it was dealt with or never existed in the first place.

Now you get to UN-do most of their work and to RE-do it.
Hopefully your efforts will see it all properly done.
Just to let you guys know, It is a 7 years old house. How much will it cost to do the grading?
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Just to let you guys know, It is a 7 years old house. How much will it cost to do the grading?
Your time and effort, and a few six packs. You may have to bring in fill to grade away from the home. As for that PVC, looks like someone got too close with a weed wacker too many times.
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PVC becomes brittle when exposed to UV. They could have gotten away with it if they had of just used SCH 40 instead.
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They could have gotten away with it if they had of just used SCH 40 instead.
Aligning the joints and supporting the pipe wouldn't hurt.
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Aligning the joints and supporting the pipe wouldn't hurt.
I'm a novice when it comes to anything about houses but I want to learn how to fix things around the house. Where can I find this joint?
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Where can I find this joint?
In your first picture.
Where the metal meets the plastic is a joint.

The metal downspout (we assume) is adequately secured to the house.
The plastic pipe is not secured to anything...
even if it once was aligned with the metal.
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In your first picture.
Where the metal meets the plastic is a joint.

The metal downspout (we assume) is adequately secured to the house.
The plastic pipe is not secured to anything...
even if it once was aligned with the metal.
Do I have to dig around the joint?
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Do I have to dig around the joint?
Based on your other comments you have a fair bit of digging (and tamping and filling and tamping) and grading to do all around that house.

No one can tell you specifically what you'll need to do... but in the course of doing all this you'll learn where the other end of that PVC pipe is going and probably add a gravel base (or something) under it to keep it aligned with the downspout and supported.

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Whatever you do---remember what I said about open, free fall drains---

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