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Old 09-28-2007, 09:17 PM   #1
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We'd like to have a security system in our house, but we don't see the need for a monitoring service. Our community has a good neighborhood watch and our police force patrols the local grocery store for lack of anything else to do.

Basically, we want a control panel, a bunch of door and window sensors, and a really loud alarm.

All the major companies require a monitoring service. Is there any place I can buy a reliable system without monitoring? How hard are they to install?

We'll probably install wireless, presuming that it won't interfere with our phone or internet.

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Old 09-29-2007, 01:36 AM   #2
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Hi there,

I hear you. We are just switching from monitored to non monitored. Just bought the kit (Wireless) - haven't got round to installing yet as it turns out we have another 2 months on our contract! Shame I didn't figure this out 4 years ago.

Our descision was prompted by a bit of research , mostly talking to some guy in the local pub ;-). The average time a burglar spends in a house is 6 minutes. The monitored alarms either call the phoneline if the alarm goes off or if you have a speaker attached say something like : "Identify yourself , the authorities are on the way!" - the authorities can be your Uncle Bob that you left as contact with the company or their local security service. You can set up non monitored to call your cell if triggered which sounds handy.

My opinion is if you know your neighbours they will call the police if anything is up anyways - so why pay the monitoring charge.

You can get alarms from local places "Burglar Stop" in Vancouver is good - or some big box retailers - Rona here has one for $274 - wireless.

Wired apparently are better because you can put the unit away from the keypad so it's harder to rip off the wall but can be a pain to install.

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Old 10-01-2007, 08:50 AM   #3
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Most alarm companies will install a system without the requirement of monitoring. They might push the option, but that's all it is, an option. The only time monitoring is mandatory around here is if you get the "free" alarm from companies that advertise this. Then, as part of the promo, you need to get the monitoring for a set period of time.
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:23 AM   #4
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The companies I've spoken with so far said they do not have that option at all. However, their sales reps might not know all the options. Do you have any specific names of companies that sell systems without monitoring?
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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This is on LI, NY. These companies are small local guys, not ADT or that size company.
They would do little good for you in Pennsylvania.
Try the Yellow pages or some local references from friends or neighbors.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:31 AM   #6
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There is wireless system doing that... I installed one... it works and not difficult to install... the problem I see is really the "wireless" which means you need to change batteries when it is out.... like the clock.. but if you think about it... each wireless sensor in the house you need to do that.... and probably requires to reprogram after that... it is a lot of harsel.... if there is DIY wire system out that.... I would use those instead ... those are basically what people getting from the company... they don't use wireless...
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:32 PM   #7
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We moved into a house that had a very poor previous owner. Poor meaning they hadn't paid their bills for more than a year and poor that they couldn't afford $25/month.

So, we inherited a security system (with no passwords by the way), which I tried to reset. To no avail. Where I live (in Canada), they tend to have a $25/month deal with the security system installed with a contract of some sort. If you don't mind paying $25/month for a year, then cancel your contract afterwards and enjoy the security system with no monitoring later, see if that would work?

I might do that in our next house...
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:17 PM   #8
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If you google wireless alarm systems you should get several options to purchase a system on line. I did about a year ago. Easy install, and easy to program. In fact just last Saturday night at 3am while I am asleep at home alone someone tried to break in and appearantly got the crap scared out of them from the alarm. As far as I am concerned it has more then paid for itself.
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For a cheap wireless system - I would try the big box stores. Rona or Canadian tire here in Canada. Probably Lowes down in the states.

The www.homesecuritystore.com has some - don't know the shop but they seem to sell in the states.

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Old 10-01-2007, 11:47 PM   #10
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Does anyone know where to find books that tell you how to re-program the central monitor?

I had an Ademco wireless system installed by ADT, then I stopped paying for the monitoring service after the required two years. After that, the system was used without the monitoring service just fine...

But now, without a phone line hooked up anymore, the system will not do anything because it needs a phone connection before its program logic will work. I'd like to bypass its requirement for a phone line but need a book that tells me how to do so. The owner's manual is inadequate.
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Can't you hook up a phone line to the unit ? It doesn't have to be used. Maybe just the voltage in the line will be enough.
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that is why those poeple setting up alarm system is kind of bad business practice in my opinion... they try to lock you up by not providing how to operate the machine (and yet they said they give you the machine for free, what good is it if there is no complete instruction come with it).... to me this is not ethical... and this is the industry standard, unfortunately... that is why I try to stay away from them...

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Can't you hook up a phone line to the unit ? It doesn't have to be used. Maybe just the voltage in the line will be enough.
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It's permanently connected to a phone line, but unless it can attempt to dial then it seems like the program logic will not work. So it needs an active phone line.

I'm not living in the house... it's for sale. So I don't intend to pay for an essentially unused phone line. But it might look dumb to potential buyers when they see "FAULT" displayed on the central unit.
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An alarm with a whaling exterior siren will scare off some thieves, yes. Some others will realize that it may or may not be monitored, and even if it is they have enough time to get a decent payday and still get away.

However you are forgetting the advantages of a monitored system.

Home invasions - if someone if forcing you to disarm the system, there is a panic code that will shut the alarm off and send the alert to immediately send police without phone calls or warning

Medical emergency - push the medical button, help is on the way

Fire - there is also a fire button, push it on your way out and help is called for you. This feature can also be used in conjunction with a wired or wireless smoke alarm

Sump pump overflow - a sensor is placed on the sump and if triggered you are alerted. Thats a big deal for some with 10s if thousands invested in a basement remodel.

These are all features you will not have if it is not monitored, and once it is set up, you get a certificate of monitoring and most home owners insurances will give a discount because of it.

Just wanted to point those things out, if you dont feel you need them then monitoring isnt worth it I guess, but personally, I feel its worth every penny.
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personally, I feel if an alarm isn't monitored it is a waste of money entirely.

I like my alarm. Whether I'm at home, or away, it will let the monitoring company know if there is a fire or break in. And if the thieves are smart enough to cut the phone line, well, its got a graham radio module too. It doesn't take long for a house to burn down, its comforting to know that at least the fire dept. will be called.

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