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Old 05-03-2011, 07:36 AM   #76
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It's pretty funny how I can stir the pot over Mike Holmes. Some people just go nuts when I accuse Holmes of less than honorable behavior. It's amazing how people can be so brainwashed over something as simple and with as little-meaning as the Holmes TV ventures.

I did this a couple of years ago which is when I found out how easy it was to send people over the edge and draw them in.

Now you want to talk about Dean Johnson?

Hey by the way...

Wasn't the name dpach a name that was associated with the disappearance (and alleged murder) of Natalie Holloway in Aruba a few years ago? Seems that dpach was the friend of the main suspect and the brother of yet another accomplice.
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It's pretty funny how I can stir the pot over Mike Holmes. Some people just go nuts when I accuse Holmes of less than honorable behavior. It's amazing how people can be so brainwashed over something as simple and with as little-meaning as the Holmes TV ventures.

I did this a couple of years ago which is when I found out how easy it was to send people over the edge and draw them in.

Now you want to talk about Dean Johnson?

Hey by the way...

Wasn't the name dpach a name that was associated with the disappearance (and alleged murder) of Natalie Holloway in Aruba a few years ago? Seems that dpach was the friend of the main suspect and the brother of yet another accomplice.

Who the heck is Natalie Holloway? More Kook Aid, eh? Again, not everyone's world revolves around the one you live in.

Not sure how you label Mike as little-meaning...he's trying to change codes so they are more than the 20 yr old minimum because we build houses differently today and there is new technology that is so much better than old ways (kerdi membranes and Schluter system for under tiles, using construction adhesives in addition to nails/screws, etc that don't throw the average budget way over), he shows a better way to do things, works at setting up better trade schools for better trades people, spends 70 hrs a week arranging help for families who have no where to turn to fix their issues from shoddy contractors (not saying all contractors are shoddy), and he does a lot of work that is volunteer and free. Is he a god, heck no! Is he making money off his ventures, yes. Is he overdoing most things, yes. Do I agree with everything he does, no! But, making money now is the end product of years of sincerely trying to change things for the better in the construction industry. As the article said, he didn't approach a network about doing the show, the network approached him and they had to convince him to even do it. He was already out there doing this as much as he could long before a show. So he's not all about the money.

If all you have time to do is try and stir the pot, how about you spend your time being more constructive and positive....seems you have a lot of free time to spend on this forum....perhaps a "I'll be the hero on here and save the day" ego trip.

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Thanks Rusty....interesting reading. Sad story.

Again, show that our friend Mr. Cline doesn't really do much research and goes by either memory or BS. Ms Holloway's friend/suspect was Deepak Kalpoe.

I can understand how Mr. Cline could confuse Dpach for Deepak, seeing how he likes to kill time by stiring up crap, and we all know that Canada is very close to Aruba on the map. For a guy who has 30+ years in the business, and has probably seen a lot of "done it wrong" situations, I though he'd be supportive of a guy who's out there trying to promote "build it right the first time" and "build it better" mentality. Mind you, if some contractors didn't do it wrong, people wouldn't need Bud to come in and consult on "how to redo it right" and save the day, would they. Perhaps a little ego trip happening.

After reading a lot of his posts which have good info, I actually expected him to be more positive about Mike. Mind you, a lot of contractors don't like Mike because they get the impression he says all contractor are bad, when in fact all he's saying is that when you hire a contractor, ask for his license, check references, do homework so you can inspect the work, and make sure he answers all your questions and always has permits. In other words, hire good contractors.

Good contractors shouldn't have an issue with that.

Thanks for clearing this up for me. Appreciate it.

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I begrudge no one his success as long as it was obtained legally and ethically. Unfortunately, there is a long-lived movement in the world that believes otherwise.
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dpach, whatever axe you have to grind with Bud, I wish you would just come out with it. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand. I'm not going to sit here and read Bud getting ripped after all the good advice he has posted here without saying something about it. I have learned so much from Bud and the other regular contractors who post here that I can watch a show like Hometime or This Old House and say to my wife, "no that's not right."

What Mike Holmes says on his show seems pretty accurate for the most part but what do I know. Considering the nature of his show I would hope the show's editors would catch most of the technical errors he may make in the course of production and make coorections to that info as best as they can. I would guess that Holmes physical appearance had some influence on the network approaching him in the first place. It should not go unnoticed that the gals he has working with him are also easy on the eye. It really is all about ratings and sponsorship in the name of helping others.

Yes he has helped people but so has Oprah. Both have very good PR people in their corner to play down their personal wealth. I don't begrudge any of these people their good fortunes. I am not ashamed to say that if I could get a hold of a brass ring like that I would ride it for all it's worth too. Maybe I wouldn't have multiple lavish homes, big boats and fancy cars but I would at least establish a portfolio assure that my family would never want for anything again.
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I've not read all the posts in this thread but I'll offer some Holmes observations (which may have been stated already).

1. I've personally never seen a show where he used a nail. Only screws. He does use hammers to destroy things.
2. I've personally never seen a show where he used (or recommended the use of) a true voltage meter. Only a proximity stick. For someone who lambasts electrical installations like he does, he sure doesn't appear to have the normal tools.
3. He keeps the dumpster businesses going. Where I'm from, when one does as much damage as Holmes does, there is always some opportunity for reasonable and justifiable salvage operations.

Holmes is in the business of selling his show. Controversy sells.
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Thanks to Holmes, I have clients who expect me to knock holes in the walls of properties they do not own to see what's inside(!)

These days, I have to start every inspection by noting that:

"That's television". This is real life."
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We got two separate home inspections for our house because we wanted to make sure it was thoroughly inspected. Would have been interesting if I had seen Holmes show before buying this house, but it was only afterwards that I saw this show. Nothing would have been done differently though.
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If all you have time to do is try and stir the pot, how about you spend your time being more constructive and positive....seems you have a lot of free time to spend on this forum....perhaps a "I'll be the hero on here and save the day" ego trip.
Deepak you amuse me my friend. I love screwin' with hot-heads like you on these forums. hehehe You have been one the easier ones to get riled up. THANK YOU.

I'll let my reputation (here) stand on its own merit. I've been on DIY Forums helping people for about ten years now. It doesn't pay enough for me to buy a Bayliner or travel the world or tickle cuties with tight pants, but it does keep me out of the bars, I enjoy it. And...I enjoy screwin' with you and people like you. You've been fun. But anyone that doesn't remember who Natalie Holloway was must live with their head in the sand.

If you'll go back you will see that I criticized Mike Holmes a celebrity. When one becomes a politician or celebrity they open themselves up to criticism of all kinds from all sources.

I criticized Holmes and you attacked me.
I didn't attack you!

I'll let my 4000 posts here stand up against your 14 posts here any time.
I will also gladly match you wit for wit if that's what you want to do but the Moderators will only close the thread if we go overboard. Then where will we be? Right now, they are enjoying this as much as I am.

Now, do you want to know about Dean Johnson or not?
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[quote=Jim F;641504]dpach, whatever axe you have to grind with Bud, I wish you would just come out with it. Not that it has anything to do with the topic at hand. I'm not going to sit here and read Bud getting ripped after all the good advice he has posted here without saying something about it. I have learned so much from Bud and the other regular contractors who post here that I can watch a show like Hometime or This Old House and say to my wife, "no that's not right."



The only axe I have to grind with Bud is that for some reason, he can't seem to admit that what Mike does, has good intentions behind it. Mike's trying to improve minimun codes, help families that have had a few bad contractors do bad stuff, and show people new and better ways to do things. Most of all, he tells people to make sure the contractor they hire has a license, talk to his/her references, research the work so you can follow it along, and make sure to always have permits. Basically, hire a respectible and proven contractor and heres the questions you should ask to make sure. Does he make money doing, yes. But he was doing this as much as he could afford long before the network came to him about doing the show.

If you read my above post, I mentioned that I've like a lot of the posts that Bud does, and that I find his advice very informative. So I'm not ripping his knowledge. I just can't understand the hatred he had for Mike Holmes and what he does. I understand that not a lot of contactors dislike him because the average customer out there often expects Mike Holmes type work or inspections and yes, that is not always realistic or affordable. But after speaking with Mike at our Home and Garden show where he spoke, he said that yes, he knows he goes overboard and that the average person could not afford all the things he does. But he wants the show to be a showcase that there are better ways to do the old things we've always done. Its just that he does it ALL in each home, whereas the average homeowner isn't rebuilding an entire house each time, just individual rooms and if they realized for an extra 10-20% of the budget you can make it so much better, a lot of customers would (spend an extra $1000 on that $10,000 bathroom makeover with proper Kerdi / Schluter system under tiles, or ad construction adhesive to subfloors to prevent squeaks down the road for the extra $250, spend the extra $2500 to sprayfoam walls and then not rely on bat insulation and moisture barrier poly, etc).

According to Bud, he's only in it for the MONEY, the FAME, FORTUNE, and for some reason, FREE TRIPS to copenhagen.
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If you'll go back you will see that I criticized Mike Holmes a celebrity. When one becomes a politician or celebrity they open themselves up to criticism of all kinds from all sources.

I criticized Holmes and you attacked me.
I didn't attack you!


Now, do you want to know about Dean Johnson or not?

Actually Bud this is kind of fun. I always enjoy being the protagonist to people who stir the pot. Keeps some of these posts fun and exciting.

Actually, you did kinda attack me when I tried to mention a fact that Mike does give up his salary for the individual show when he goes over budget to help the family out (that actually wasn't bs, as it actually was a statement from the network when a documentary was done about the show. When asked to confirm it, Mike just smiled and said what kind of person would he be if he asked suppliers and contractors to donate time and supplies if he wasn't willing to do the same). Your response to my statement was "That's a crock!" like I was lying or BSing. That gets me a little defensive.

Actually, I've stated a few times through this that I do find your posting informative and helpful. I've never questioned your ability or knowledge. Just can't figure out why you think Mikes only in it for fame, fortune, etc. when history shows he was doing this kind of work (as much as he could afford -- and it almost bankrupted him) long before the network ever approached him to do a show. So it wasn't about the money.

Sorry I've never heard about Ms. Holloway, but we don't hear about every person in the US that goes missing, killed, etc, up here in Canada (even the high profile ones, or if we do hear about it, its a 10 second blurp on the news), especially from the deep south. Sad story.

Now, what can you tell me about Dean Johnson? (Should be interesting).
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We got two separate home inspections for our house because we wanted to make sure it was thoroughly inspected. Would have been interesting if I had seen Holmes show before buying this house, but it was only afterwards that I saw this show. Nothing would have been done differently though.
What were the most interesting differences between the two reports / inspections?
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What were the most interesting differences between the two reports / inspections?
One was definitely more thorough, informative than the other but neither found major issues and so far so good over a year later.

I think we will still get two inspections in the future.
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C'mon Bud, tell us about Dean Johnson. All I know is he started as a "tin man" and some of the houses on the show, he's flippin'.
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