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Old 05-02-2011, 08:15 AM   #61
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What's with all the animosity? The show is fun to watch, and most viewers pick up some good tips every now and then. With all the mindless crap that's on TV these days, Mike's shows are a welcome change on Sunday nights.
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Wow... this week's house was so screwed up that they had to stretch it to 2 episodes LOL.
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What's with all the animosity? The show is fun to watch, and most viewers pick up some good tips every now and then. With all the mindless crap that's on TV these days, Mike's shows are a welcome change on Sunday nights.
We dropped cable, so we no longer get HOH. But I do have to say, it was a heckuva lot more interesting than watching crap like America's Next Top Model & Celebrity Apprentice.
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By the time he's finished here I'll have a brand new home. Of course the show would have to pay for it all.

Some of those folks on his show have paid $70000 big ones or more for worse than shoddy work. Then along comes Holmes and fixes it all. Ya gotta love it.
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By the time he's finished here I'll have a brand new home. Of course the show would have to pay for it all.
Of course, as I've mentioned, Extreme Makeover knocks down the house if the toilet won't stop running.
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For those that may want to know more about holmes, you can read this:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/12/13/the-holmes-complex/
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Okay I've read it!

And it proves out everything I have said and dislike about the guy. A thirty foot Bayliner boat, a chauffeur, a desire to expand his base in the name of benevolence towards mankind, trips to Copenhagen and who knows where else. Money is what it is all about. It's always about money. The guy is greedy and has found a way to build his fortune on the backs of the poor and less fortunate. The guy is a joke!
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Okay I've read it!

And it proves out everything I have said and dislike about the guy. A thirty foot Bayliner boat, a chauffeur, a desire to expand his base in the name of benevolence towards mankind, trips to Copenhagen and who knows where else. Money is what it is all about. It's always about money. The guy is greedy and has found a way to build his fortune on the backs of the poor and less fortunate. The guy is a joke!

Wow, I've read a lot of your posts on various posting on this site over the last year or so, and actually like a lot of what you've had to say on the way to do things properly.

But this just makes you look like a fool. Apparently you don't read too closely. The trip to Copenhagen was with a Canadian Government contingency to speak about ecologies and green ideas (climate change), not a dam holiday like you make it sound. He's working to set up housing projects for native reserves to help better their quality of life; working with the governments to develop this program.

He's taken one holidy in 7 years....how many have you taken, EVERY year. He has one way to escape the rat race...a boat. Boy, I personally know a dozen contractors that each have a BIG home, a cottage, quads, boats, sea-doos, snowmobiles, and take 2-3 weeks holidays each year. None give out free advice, come to your home without presenting a bill even for consulting, and hardly ever speak with the actual homeowner to explain what they are going to do yet alone WHY it should be done that way.

And it was the network is who hired a driver for him so he'd have time to handle the work load.

He's built programs to TEACH others to be better contractors, which by the way pays him NOTHING to do. He went to peoples homes to give out FREE advice for the first few years because it bothered him how contractors had taken these people...bet you've never given free anything!

He's trying to set up trades programs in the US to help develop better contractors out there....again paying him NOTHING. Perhaps you should attend.

Perhaps Mike should inspect some of the work you've done.....keep in mind you're busy drinking Kool-Aid all the time.

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Hmm....is there anyone here who doesn't like money? Money lets me own this computer, my home, my cars. And guess what, when I do work for someone I actually charge them for it. Wow, what a SOB I must be.
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Wow, I've read a lot of your posts on various posting on this site over the last year or so, and actually like a lot of what you've had to say on the way to do things properly.

But this just makes you look like a fool.
Struck a nerve huh?

And I suppose you think Ty Pennington is the second coming of Christ also.


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Hmm....is there anyone here who doesn't like money? Money lets me own this computer, my home, my cars. And guess what, when I do work for someone I actually charge them for it. Wow, what a SOB I must be.
Yes but at least you are admitting it. You aren't out there in the cold cruel world of the dismayed silently acquiring your fortune while telling everyone how benevolent you are and hiding your gold in a coffee can in your back yard.

When's the last time you got to take a trip to Copenhagen on the tax payer's dollar?
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Struck a nerve huh?

And I suppose you think Ty Pennington is the second coming of Christ also.

When's the last time you got to take a trip to Copenhagen on the tax payer's dollar?

Sounds of jealousy from a man who actually know nothing about Mike Holmes. Keep it coming Bud....maybe someday you can be half the man Mike Holmes is....but I seriously doubt it Just a contractor who thinks no one is better than he is...especially when he gives his bill to his customers....afterall, Bud, as you said....its always about the money!!

How does Ty Pennington come into this? Extreme Home Make Over is a joke that has caused more families to file bankrupcy due to extravegance. Now there's someone you may have something in common with Bud!
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It's a friggin TV show....no reason to take it seriously. If you don't like it, turn it off. Personally I find about every home improvement show entertaining and often informative. They show you things that you may not think of, give you ideas and suggestions that you could use or suggest to potential customers. And many customers see things on the shows that they want to use.....and that's good for business. (at least my design business). But anything that shows consumers the right and wrong way to do things, points out problems and solutions in my mind is helping more than hurting. And like I said, you can always turn it off.
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quote Boy, I personally know a dozen contractors that each have a BIG home, a cottage, quads, boats, sea-doos, snowmobiles, and take 2-3 weeks holidays each year. None give out free advice, come to your home without presenting a bill even for consulting, and hardly ever speak with the actual homeowner to explain what they are going to do yet alone WHY it should be done that way.



Well you certainly have met the one's who are well off. I don't do badly, however I don't have any boats or a garage full of toys, and don't take lavish vacations every year. If I do reach that point, that's cool, however i'm not there, and I don't know many contractors who are.

I spend hours at a time talking with people, talking about their ideas, figuring out a price for them, giving them ideas on what can be done in a space. Sometimes it leads to a job for myself, other times they hire someone cheaper, and they don't even have the courtesy to phone back. This is done for free.

So don't think holmes is some great charity and every other contractor out there rips people off and laughs all the way to the bank. You don't see many TV shows showing what contractors go through to avoid bankruptcy when they get ripped off, it happens more than you think, although Mikey won't talk about it in detail on his show.

Again, I think he's alright, however don't make assumptions about contractors in general off of what you see on a TV show. At least on holmes they can get through an episode without everyone in tears, like that one with Ty whats his name, home makeover show.

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ChrisBC...I'm glad you're successful as a contractor. Please don't take me the wrong way; I'm not saying every contactor out there overcharges, lives extravegantly, and doesn't care about his clients. I just have a problem with guys like Bud who thinks that its impossible for a guy like Mike to actually do things for free, care as much as he does, and not have his own intentions in mind with everything he does.

There are a lot of good contractors out there like you, such as the guys I had do my exterior renovation, roofing and windows...they were very intelligent, gave their advice for free, and made suggestions that would cost more, but didn't charge for it because it was the right way to do it. He lives in a 1000 sqft house, doesn't have toys, and puts in so many hours a week, he never sees his kids.

The point I was trying to make to Mr. Cline is that even when someone offered him a document that he could read to enlighten himself on Mike and perhaps become informed of what Mike does, he only slashes the man as a fake, that he's only in it for fortune, fame....even when it explains where Mike came from, all the free work he does, works with government organizations to better housing for everyone which pays him nothing, etc.

I may have been a little strong or hard on contractors in general, but I have the utmost respect for people who work in the cold 7 mths of the year, work long hours from before sunrise to after dark, often 6 and 7 days a week, etc. I just can't see people lining up to hire Bud Cline Contracting knowing he's only in it for the money.
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thanks for the reply, just wanted to share my 2 cents.
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