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Old 05-20-2012, 10:14 AM   #31
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I have my tank filled.

When empty my 5gallon/20# tank will stop filling at 4.7 gallons.

Propane weighs approximately 4.2 lbs per gal. depending on the temp.

4.7 gal. X 4.2 lbs. = 19.74 lbs. of propane not including the tank itself.

Never even considered using the exchange tanks. Those tanks in my area go for $22-$25. Filling my own cost about $15

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Old 05-20-2012, 11:14 AM   #32
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You do know that is the weight of the tank, not the weight of the LPG. The max that they can fill these tanks is aprox 5# of LPG. They have a lee-way of anywhere from 4.3 to 5 pounds. If you fill it until it is full, the tank will freeze up, and the LPG will not turn into a gas, so you can light your grill. What you will have, is a sitting bomb.

So stating that Blue Rhino is in a class action, is just stupid. What it is, is people that do not understand that BR is going by the min. they can fill the tanks, and still state that they are within reg's. Also has to do with the fact that the cabinets are usually sitting out in direct sunlight, and the fuel will expand while sitting waiting for people to purchase them. BTW, it was also Amerigas, and the fact also remains, that the prices were lower at those rentals, because they knew they were filling them less, which meant more turn around. I see no cheating of the customers, other than the majority that rented these units from both companies, should read the fine print before making the sale.

The U.S. has become the land of the stupid, illinformed, and sue happy society.
You sir are the uninformed... But believe whatever you want. a 20# propane tank can handle 20LBS of propane AND STILL HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION.
If you look at your tank it will have stamped on the side it's TARE weight. Example 2 of the 20# tanks have a TW (tare weight) of 16.6 lbs, 2 of my 30# tanks have a TW of 23.5 lbs

I never said that blue rhino (and the likes) were cheating people, BUT they USED to have VERY small print listing the ACTUAL amount of propane in the bottles, they've since changed that (due to the lawsuit). I've known they were shortchanging people for a long time so I usually do not use them.

You keep buying 15#'s of propane in your 20's and I'll keep buying 20#'s in my 20's getting them filled by a LOCAL pro who ONLY does propane and has probably filled more tanks than he cares to count. When a PROFESSIONAL in ANY field tells me something I generally believe him, after all he is a PRO. Much like when an HVAC guy tells you that your furnace is done, you believe him.
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You sir are the uninformed... But believe whatever you want. a 20# propane tank can handle 20LBS of propane AND STILL HAVE ROOM FOR EXPANSION.
Uninformed, doubtful. By the standards stated for ORM-D, and which are different for when going to a supplier to fill up a tank, there will be differences in the weights. Maybe next time you should do your research, vs spouting FUD and being opinionated about nothing. Only person I see getting their panties in a bunch is you. Me, I could care less. I pick up my tanks at the local Menard's vs Lowe's or Walgreen's. Why, because it is cheaper, and I can go there at midnight if I wish, and swipe my card, exchange the tank, and be gone in less than two minutes.
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Did you read the link I posted? Clearly not. That's fine you waste your money. Ever heard of the opd valve on those tanks? You physically cannot over fil them.
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Did you read the link I posted? Clearly not. That's fine you waste your money. Ever heard of the opd valve on those tanks? You physically cannot over fil them.
Why do I have to, when I know that tanks can be overfilled, even with a OPD valve on them. Wasting money, that is your opinion. Last time I "rented" a tank, was over a year ago, and have used it more, than when I would get them from Lowe's. Now again, quit trying to start a fire when you have no fuel to keep it lit.
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Why do I have to, when I know that tanks can be overfilled, even with a OPD valve on them.
I don't understand this statement. How can they be overfilled? http://www.propane101.com/index.htm
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http://www.bluerhino.com/BRWEB/Help/...ts-tanks-.aspx
Look right here your favorite brand blue rhino used to put 17lbs in their tanks, how could they do that if you feel 16 is the max? It's ok to admit your wrong.
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Guys, maybe charcoal aint so bad after all. besides, who says meat tastes better with propane? Even real wood, for that matter- best fuel source for finest grilling.........(light humor......)
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Check a local camp ground area or trailer park in your area. The one by me fills a tank for $12 and they fill it more than what you get at the local tank exchange place which is about $18 here and less gas. The only time the exchange place is good is when your tank is expired
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Wow three pages of discussion on this. Still, I think I can add some info. The newer tanks are safer than the older ones due to the internal valve that prevents the tank from turning on when it is not attached. There is a thick gasket that seals much better that the previous tanks. You only need to hand tighten them. There is generally no need to test the seal. Basically, they have redesigned the hookup to make it more user friendly.

They recommend the tank be replaced after a certain peroid of time so there is merit in occasionally doing the tank exchange rather than the fill so you are not dealing with an old tank. They clean and inspect the tanks they use for the exchange.

I keep a spare to avoid running out. There is a way to check the level of fuel using a pitcher of hot water. You pour it down one side of the tank. Where there is liquid the side of the tank will cool faster leaving sweat. That sweat will show you how much LP is left in the tank. No guage necessary.
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I skimmed this post a bit, but did not see if anyone posted this option: you can purchase your tank already filled. Some businesses that sell propane tanks will deliver it to your house and take the old tank. Tanks are typically filled 3/4 of the way, at 15 lbs., but you can find people that fill the tanks to 20 lbs.
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I skimmed this post a bit, but did not see if anyone posted this option: you can purchase your tank already filled. Some businesses that sell propane tanks will deliver it to your house and take the old tank. Tanks are typically filled 3/4 of the way, at 15 lbs., but you can find people that fill the tanks to 20 lbs.
This is what I did. I bought a shiny new tank from the local hardware store, then took it out to the parking lot where they fill it for you.
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Here in Canada, all propane tanks are date stamped at time of manufacture. The law states that 10 years after the date of manufacture, the tank can no longer be filled.

I agree that if you own your tank and have it filled you are likely getting more propane than if you do the swap route. And you will be saving yourself some money in the process. That was always my first choice but finding locations to fill propane tanks is getting harder and harder so I eventually had to go the route of the Swappers. More convenient but much MORE expensive.

I don't know what is the appropriate fill amount for a 20lb tank, but I have had one that was over filled. When the tank sat in the sun for awhile, it started to expel gas out of that valve. I quickly grabbed it and put it into the shade and all was fine.

And I too had a small 5lb tank as a back up for when the other bottle runs dry. I only use the 5lber in emergencies and it has lasted almost 15 years. It saved me plenty of times when we had tenderloin steaks on the grill.

As far as the kids causing problems with a spare tank. I'd say it is no more a worry than the existing tank on the BBQ. And in fact, I am more worried about the HOT BBQ than I am about the kids playing with the propane tank.

And finally, we just gave up on propane. Had a natural gas line installed last week and bought this on the weekend. 1000 sq inches of cooking service. insert manly FIST pump here!!!

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The local Costco refills mine for about 12.xx plus tax. Never checked how full they fill it.

Also, one thing I didn't figure out until about the second refill. If you open the valve too fast or forget to turn the valve off and open the grill there is some kind of safety device that limits the flow. I thought mine was out of gas even though it didn't seem like that long ago that I had filled it. Unscrew the hose from the tank and then back on and you are back in business.

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