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Old 05-28-2006, 11:19 AM   #16
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Well the installers I guess work on a $475 per door install,and its a outside installers and not Lowes(Lowes don't have installers}
From what the Installers told me that the Bugs,Water and wind will get in when you close the door because on the smalll opening GAP in between both doors when they are closed...
I called the installers a few hours later and ask a question about myself not really going to use the door that much unless i grill a hotdog.
I asked them about the water,Bugs and wind again.....
And the Installer said he got many complants on these doors,I told him I will go to lowes tomorrow and look at the doors again,and the Installer said you will need to get on your knees and look at the bottom of the door when the doors are shut together,then he said you will get cold air coming in from the bottom during the Winter and then he said he does not know about BUGS.....
Hummmm maybe the job is a tad more hard for them???
Yes I tried to call a few Lumber places but all were closed because of the holiday...I will try tuesday and get a few prices......Maybe the installer will be cheaper and hope they take the doors away...Thanks...JT

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Old 05-29-2006, 05:25 PM   #17
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I just called Lowes up and they came back with price of
$2058 for those doos $1243 for the doors instead of the $558,because the the high price is that i have 2X6 Jams???
And the install went up too $815 from $475.......Are they jerking me off?
I called homedepot and they have no price increse in their Masonite doors,even if its 2X6 or 2X4 the price is the same....
Just wondering is Lowes Ripping me off?
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Old 05-29-2006, 11:33 PM   #18
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I just installed a reliabilt French door for a customer and a masonite exterior door. First of all while the Reliabilt isn't the greatest door in the world it has all the energy efficient seals and I really think any bugs getting in could only be due to contractor error. I will say that the low end masonite door that I installed was very impressivefor the money. The seals were definitely a higher grade. As for picking a contractor from Lowes(they all sub contract) typically it is maybe a better idea to solicit an outside contractor on you own from the yellow pages. Not all contractors frome these stores are "shoddy", but I have heard some horror stories. All you have to do to be subcontractor for them is fill out an application I believe with minimal reference and insurance checks. Your best bet is to ask arround for a good general contractor or carpenter. Ask at church or you friends who they use to get the right scoop. Also I just started reading your thread. Is this going in a frame house or brick? That can effect you bid. Bottom line is the economy is not that great. There are lots of talented people that can install whichever door you go with without bugs getting in. And oh, one last thing. If you look on your reliabilt door, you will see Jeldwen on the hinges because Reliablit is a part of the Jeldwen company.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:02 AM   #19
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I still think you should go to a no name lumber company and see what they offer. When carpenters buy stuff for all there jobs they go with the no name local lumber company and not lowes or menards or HD. I guarantee you they will have nice french patio doors if not in stock then they will have a catalogue with ones in it. If you should buy one from them don't worry about installation because they know every local carpenter around or you could just ask one who is loading up. See local carpenters will have accounts at a local lumber company because there easier to set up then at lowes or menards or homedepot. I got my patio door from a no name small town lumber company. I didn't like what lowes or menards had in stock. The lumber company ordered it for me.

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Old 05-30-2006, 12:39 PM   #20
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Ok since I am afriad of the contractor that Lowes are useing in my area I will go local....
My house is a 10 year old Bi Level NO BRICKS,and the old french doors that suck lol...
I went and called a few Local Lumber Years and Stores and so far i am leaning towards Therma Tru french doors with the Blinds in them and the doors are STEEL.
The price for the door without screen is $940 for the Thema Tru Model 130VBRbut the local Lumber Yard says it does not come witha screen but I will have to buy a Larson at $550...
Called 2 other dealers and they say that the Therma Tru 130R does come with a screen at a price of $1009...
I even called the Company and they told me that there is no screen on the door...Makes yea wonder?
Also Thema tru has a PBS fiberglass door with screens and Blinds at $1110.......
I was thinking of going to home depot and spending another $30 for a measurement for a Masonite door.But I am passing and see if the contractors will give me a better deal,since the luber company gave me the phone numbers and I feel how bad can they be?JohnnyT
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I would look into the pbs fiberglass door with screens and blinds. at 1110.
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This is the way to go. I think this is what your talking about. Have them order it so you can get it ANYWAY YOU WANT IT. Meaning glass blinds hardware.http://www.thermatru.com/PDFpatioFrenchDoors.aspx
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:22 PM   #23
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Thanks for yea reply 747
I came back from Homedepot and had a price of $1080 for the Masonites with Blinds and screens and both doors opened Steel......
But I had second thoughts about paying $575 and who knows how much more in labor..
I was looking a tad eary today at my local lumber store and they had the Therma Tru 130R with blinds and both doors opened but they did not come or cannot order screens as a option.Unless I buy a screen doors or something extra.
Then I looked at the Therma Tru S130VBR with only ONE door opening and the other CLOSED but it comes with a sliding screen and the door is steel.
Now about the PDF patio door I don't think that comes with a screen as a option?
The lumber store gave me a few names and one can do it in late June and the others July and Aug.The installer that wants to do it in July told be he charges $300-$400 Plus Extras that he might need....
Just wondering they all mostly install Therma Tru Doors,,,,should I stick with this brand or should I buy the Masonite from Hone Depot and have
my installers install it?
Lots of questions but I am glad I am sticking with Local Installers instead of the big chain and I know I will not get screwed like I did with Lowes....Thanks JohnnyT
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I am getting the smooth star doors with a 20 year warranty
but yea like the PDF but that is a cheaper door with a 10 year warrentry.....Both have Blinds and both are fiberglass but with the Smooth star has a track for a sliding screen door.....
I see on their website that there are a few more dealers that sell these doors that I will checkout tomorrow on the price.......Thanks JT
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I would go with the local lumber company and the smooth star does look like a quality door. Also there installer with definately know what he is doing or they will give you the name of a local carpenter no problem the local lumber companys know all the best carpenters by first name. Oh and as i recall you have option on that door if you wanted to order it. That is definately the way to go. Have a local lumber company order it you might have to wait 3 or 4 weeks but so what that way you get the door that you want. Because i did briefly look at the website and i think you have color options.
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Thanks for yea advise 747
Funny thing happen today,I thought I would call another local lumber yard for the Smooth star doors and they are cheaper by at least $125 and No tax....Funny I asked the guy that I have to find a Installer for this door,and the guy from the Floors and Doors Store(thought it was a lumber store when I called}said that they can install the door at $200,,,,wowwww.
While I was there I asked him does he sell hardwood flooring and he showed me Bruce Hardwood floors at $5.50 a foot,At first I thought that was just for the install,But it was for the hardwood and install together,no tax.Lowes had the same hardwood flooring at $4.39 a foot and $4.58 a foot to install,,,,So I said screw lowes again lol and I am saving $3.97 a foot at my Local Door and flooring store,,,,,,Glad I don't havemuch of a wait,only 2 weeks for install....170ft - 180ft of flooring and saving at least $700....Damm Lowes and Homdepot are both ripoffs and I would never that thought that they can be so bad and their installers sucks toooooo....JohnnyT....

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Your large and in charge now. Thats a great deal. More than that the local places care about there reputation unlike lowes or menards and home depot they could care less:D
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Sounds like it worked out better then when you first started.
The money that you saved on the flooring will pay for most of the price for the door.

A friend had an estimate for carptet from lowes and one from a local business. Lowes was $700 more and the carpet that lowes was going to install was a lesser quality. My friend went with the local business and a got a better quality carpet for $700 less.
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Only good thing about Lowes was the great prices I got on my GE Stove,Refrig and dishwasher and Coleman generator.
And with Homedepot I will have to say that their Cheap carpet is still holding up well.Home depot has a few nice carpets at great prices off of the Carpet roll they have in the store.All the carpet stores tried to screw me and glad Homedepot has a great carpet selection off of the Carpet rolls...
Yea I guess that there are a few Door and Floor stores that will give yea a great deal on Doors and Floors.
I cannot beleave their Labor is soooo cheap(depends on where yea live}comparing to lowes and homedepot.
When I first started I thought those big stores were cheaper,but I was soooooo wrong.
You guys should buy a few coupons off of Ebay for Homedepot,20% off and no experation dates on most.....and these coupons can be used at lowes too....
I have about 30 20% off coupons from homedepot that I can use anytime in the future and it cost me around $60,,,made that up when I bought my generator at lowes lol.....JohnnyT
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I got a good deal on a window airconditon from lowes last summer 196.00 for 10,000 btu. It works excellent and yes i did buy a new fridge from them a couple of years ago. I did buy some carpet at lowes and had them install it very happy with that.

Ps First wash machine and dryer i ever bought i got at kmart they lasted a long time. I don't think kmart sells washer and dryers anymore they were whirlpool.

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