Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > DIY Repair > General DIY Discussions

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-19-2009, 11:18 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
Rewards Points: 10
Question

Framing on soil


I have a 10 X10 sunroom that is 3ft off the ground and extends separatley out from the house. It is currently uninsulated, and is enclosed with rotting sheets of particle board. The sunroom is supported by cinder block pillars but the current enclosurere is done up with what ooks like untreated 2X4's and partlicle board. I live in a Northern climate and want to be able to use the sunroom during the winter, but I don't know if framing right to the soil is the right way to go about it. Any advice on how to make this a liveable space for the winter would be really appreciated.

skippyhandleman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2009, 06:49 AM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Wilmington, DE
Posts: 3,118
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Framing on soil


From your description, I would say this addition is illegal and immoral. It likely would never pass inspection as a porch, let alone a livable year round space. I would start over from scratch. Building on pillars is probably OK, depending on the span, but they must be below the frost line.

Just Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 12:38 PM   #3
Mold!! Let's kill it!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,849
Rewards Points: 2,012
Default

Framing on soil


I don't think there is enough information provided to decide whether it is ilegal or immoral. Could have been just an unfinished project or a poor choice of siding materials. Measure up the floor joists and supporting beams to see if they are sufficient. Check to see that the pillars are on footers that are below the frost line for your area. Check the roof construction to see if it is sufficient and in good condition. After you have a handle on all of these, then you can determine how to proceed. Pictures always help.
Maintenance 6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 01:51 PM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 9,519
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Framing on soil


"untreated 2X4's and partlicle board", may not be immoral, but it sure is stupid.
Have to agree, that even though you think you're starting ahead with this structure, you're not. It sounds more like elevated firewood.
Ron
Ron6519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 02:02 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: South of Boston, MA
Posts: 17,248
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Framing on soil


Take anything that is rotting off
Verify what the support is under the room
You need posts down below the frost line - where are you located?
Verify the floor joists meet current span codes, 2x6's would be bare min & actually probably be under code
2x8's or 2x10's would be much better, 2x4's for floor joists will not work

Location will dicate insulation needed & depth of posts for support

With 3' off the ground you should be able to get underneath & verify support
Is the crawl space what is enclosed with rotting wood?
What is the slope of the roof & what is used for rafters? Again 2x4's will not work

Any pics?
Scuba_Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-21-2009, 11:37 PM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 9,967
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Framing on soil


"enclosed with rotting sheets of particle board." ----- remove the enclosed portions and please post some pictures of the foundation and framing in the crawlspace.

" if framing right to the soil is the right way to go about it." ------- no, everything touching ground will rot unless treated wood or concrete based.
This is good you are asking before doing the repairs and Welcome to the forum!

Be safe, Gary

__________________
If any ads are present in my answer above, I do not condone/support/use the product or services listed, they are there against my permission.
Gary in WA is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Framing for drywall under Spiral staircase clemon03 Drywall & Plaster 6 07-17-2009 04:49 PM
soil grading for basement moisture jpenns Landscaping & Lawn Care 4 07-15-2009 10:44 PM
Question regarding soil makeup (will my soil amendment idea work?) joeyboy Landscaping & Lawn Care 5 06-30-2007 11:24 PM
Framing a 16 foot high wall for shop pranderson Building & Construction 10 01-01-2006 05:23 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.