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Old 04-20-2007, 08:54 AM   #16
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Lightyear, are you in Southern NH, by chance?
Clutccargo I live in Northern NJ.
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Clutccargo I live in Northern NJ.
Unfortunately, if your governor wasn't too busy getting into car accidents, he might have had time to declare a state of emergency after last week's storm and you may have qualified for state benefits to help with your flooding issue.
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Thanks Slick,

I realize that. That's why i did my own research about all of it.

We service about one dozen luxury apartment complexes with a total of 300+ units each. That service also includes regular calls for water damage due to roof leaks, water heater leaks, plumbing leaks (this year alone, we have had to do gut and re-do about 30 units). Because we sometimes have to do our own moisture testing and other checks, I wanted to make sure that we were following all proper procedures (including the times that we work along with certified mold remediation companies).
That is why I did my own research about the bleach and water concept. I also did my research on the so called - sold off the shelf - 'mold sprays'.
Regarding the common mold sprays that are sold everywhere, I found, true to fact, when you turn the labels over and read the fine print, they do say that they do not work on pourous surfaces.
They also state that they get rid of stains, BUT, do not state anywhere that they actually 'kill' mold or mold spores.

For years, I was under the assumption that bleach and water and these sprays work. The fact of the matter is that you do need a Fungucide to KILL mold and mold spores.
Thus, we always use an actual 'fungicide'.

(When I can find the time, I definetely plan on getting the schooling required for actual 'Mold Certification')
I recommended a bleach and mold solution to get ride of mold on surfaces. If you note my earlier posts, I said that mold remediation companies usually use a chemical to bomb the basement. This chemical usually becomes inert after about 1 hour. This chemical is indeed the fungicide. Only by bombing the room can you kill mold spores that are still in the air. That is why it is important to have an enviromental consults perform an air sample. This air sample will also determine the types of mold spores in that space. Only a certain type of mold has been linked to cause lung ailments, and is considered deadly.
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Only by bombing the room can you kill mold spores that are still in the air.
Actually, technically, there is a UV/Fan Air Exchanger that works rather well also
But the point is a big important one, there is mold (spores) in the air
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Actually, technically, there is a UV/Fan Air Exchanger that works rather well also
But the point is a big important one, there is mold (spores) in the air
Yes, and if you have a large basement, circulation can be an issue. Right now, they even sell UV light filters for your HVAC system to kill mold spores. It's installed in your return, but a key is getting proper circulation.

When you bomb a room with the fungicide, you're more likely to get into all the areas that have dead air because you are actively targeting them. When I had a mold problem, the environmental consultant advised against opening up basement windows/doors for a long period, especially if live in a wooded area, to keep the humidity low (~40%), to get rid of organic material as much as possible (ie. cardboard boxes), and keep good air circulation.
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What should I use to get rid of any fungal mole spores on toys or books that were in the flood? Is there any type of spray?

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What should I use to get rid of any fungal mole spores on toys or books that were in the flood? Is there any type of spray?

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Fungucidal spray or a concentrate that you mix into the spray form.
HD carries only one product in their cleaning dept. that is an actual fungucide. Read the labels carefully. You could also try a Janatorial cleaning supply store, or do a web search...
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What should I use to get rid of any fungal mole spores on toys or books that were in the flood? Is there any type of spray?

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Pretty much cleaning on a surface like a book or toy can be done with bleach and water. Fungicide used by the mold cleaning companies are generally not available for consumer purchase. Problem with spraying bleach/water combo into the air is that it's harsh, and spraying on a surface is that it can, if overly concentrated with bleach, damage or alter the object. Therefore, dilute well (10:1 ratio).
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How about electrical devices, such as small refrigerators or small air conditioners? Are they salvageable or should they be thrown out after being partially submerged in flood water?

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How about electrical devices, such as small refrigerators or small air conditioners? Are they salvageable or should they be thrown out after being partially submerged in flood water?

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I'm not an appliance specialist. I would suggest that you post this particular question in the Appliance forum...
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How about electrical devices, such as small refrigerators or small air conditioners? Are they salvageable or should they be thrown out after being partially submerged in flood water?

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If you are able to clean it out thoroughly, then it's probably usable if it still works. Check for corrosion or rust and clean it off. It'll be easier for your fridge rather than your AC unit. In your AC unit, it's going to be tough to see and clean everything, and the device is such that it could put out mold spores into the air if you don't clean it thoroughly but use it anyway. Mold itself has no odor, but the musky smell that you may notice is from wet wood.
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Is it true if I place coal and baking soda will help reduce the smell from the flood if I place it at each corner of the room? Someone told me to do this.
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Charcoal (as opposed to coal) and baking soda can help reduce odors on a small scale

Removing the source is key
Then things like that can help
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Make sure you turn on a lot of fans. I actually bought a barrel fan to really get the air circulating. I only use it once in awhile.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10034631&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4001624&Mo=17&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat =4261&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=89*1 07*4261*

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Make sure you turn on a lot of fans. I actually bought a barrel fan to really get the air circulating. I only use it once in awhile.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10034631&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4001624&Mo=17&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat =4261&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=89*1 07*4261*

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11034329&topnav=&whse=BC&Ne=40 00000&N=4001624&Mo=17&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat =4261&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&Sp=C&hierPath=89*1 07*4261*

thanks. I was going to ask what size fans and dehumidifiers I should purchase. Do they have any places I can rent them from?
We still have not dried up the place because a little water is still coming in.
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