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Old 11-03-2011, 04:23 AM   #1
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I have a deep old stone double washbin/sink in my basement that sees a fair amount of use. The problem is that it is tilted just enough to leave standing water after each use...it doesnt drain. This causes bug and mold problems. I closely considered shims, but its so tilted that I'd have to take a torch to the iron legs in order to right it. I was thinking, perhaps there is some sort of mortar or clay i could put at the bottom in order to sculpt a bowl-ish shaped drain. Any ideas on the material? I'm also open to other options.

edit: i guess i could use a squeegee after each use, but this seems cumbersome and not really effective

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Old 11-03-2011, 06:20 AM   #2
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Typically those are just sitting on a steel frame.

Gravity is all that keeps those in place---so lifting the tub or frame should not be to difficult.

Try a car jack --save your back.

I'll try to level it with shims.

Nothing is likely to adhere to the old sink bottom---to many years of soap and crud soaked into the old surface.----Mike---

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I don't understand why you can't shim the legs. You may have to loosen the slip joint on the drain pipe, but shimming seems the logical solution to me. The shims will need to be a material that will not compress easily, since that is a heavy sink.
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The sink was simply constructed improperly. The hot/cold water taps are clamped tight (w/ rusted bolts) attached to the sink, same w/ the drain. The legs dont have enough wiggle room for shims. Its not held together by gravity, but rather plumbing. I'd have to redo all the plumbing to right it. I can scrub out the sink pretty well. Its porous, but smooth. I'm thinking of just dumping some concrete in there (but protecting the drain obviously).
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It's old--try it---if possible add some latex additive to the concrete--
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What's the plumbing that's in the way - drain or in-lines? PVC, copper, iron? Etc.

I would tackle this to fix the problem - which, if necessary, would include cutting/shortening/lengthening the plumbing fittings as necessary - and shimming - preferably with a plastic shim that's water-tolerant.
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Okay, i'll keep that in mind, thanks.

The drain and in-lines are both holding it in place. Both are iron i think. It seems silly to tear apart and reshape the plumbing over this....i think i'm leaning back towards a simple little squeegee after each use.
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You didn't say how deep the remaining water is. But maybe you could coat layers of epoxy or something that will adhere to the old cement better. You probably could get away with using a morter mix if you go thick enough, otherwise it will just crack and break up on you.
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its only a centimeter deep, but its enough to cause trouble...

i guess epoxy would work, though i'd always prefer to avoid toxic stuff

i got it...i could sculpt a new bottom w/ liquid magma!
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a sledge hammer and a new fiberglass LT would solve the problem.
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Just try building up the base of it - if it doesn't work out too well then consider leveling.

If you do level it you can cut your pipes and reconnect them with flexi-pipe fittings that clamp on (for the drain) - I'm imagining that the in-lines are flexi-hoses, though - and those can be moved?
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Just try building up the base of it - if it doesn't work out too well then consider leveling.

If you do level it you can cut your pipes and reconnect them with flexi-pipe fittings that clamp on (for the drain) - I'm imagining that the in-lines are flexi-hoses, though - and those can be moved?

I have been reading this, maybe I am just dense, but why oh why can't you just shim it? I have one in my basement, must weigh about 800 lbs at least, takes 2 men and a boy to move it. Youre plumbing certainly is not holding up all this weight, never.Get a car jack as posted, jack it up a half inch , shim with a pressure treated shim, done. If you need to replace some pipes, so be it. You are never going to get anythig to stick to the inside of it, I have tried, although the magma wight.
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Dedicated wet/dry vac beside the sink to suck out what doesn't drain?
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Dedicated wet/dry vac beside the sink to suck out what doesn't drain?
Why is it that the obvious answer so often eludes me???

Thanks Mike---I had one in the spare tire well of my old Pinto!

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