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Old 02-05-2011, 12:40 PM   #1
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Hello, I recently noticed more and more light shining through gaps in our front and back doors (both steel exterior doors). The back door is especially bad with the deadbolt no longer lining up with the hole. The wood under the back door jamb was rotten and I replaced that with good wood and sealed everything up underneath. I checked the 3 hinges on each door and noticed the top hinge on each door only has two screws each--not sure what length screws.

The gaps are so big that new weatherstripping does not fix the problem. After doing some reading I'm guessing it's the doors are just sagging after 15-17 years. Is there anything that can be done to remedy this problem besides replacing the door and frame?

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You really do need to determine if the openning is changing based on the structural heaving or the door is sagging

You can easily check the door for sagging by opening the door to 45* and gently lift up on the door.... does it move? if it does the you have a loose top hinge, if it doesn't then you have movement in the framing, caused by a number of things related to climatic changes effecting the structure.

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The front door seems to be quite a bit looser as far as lifting it up while open. Can actually see the hinge move and appears very loose. The back door does lift some, but, barely any.
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Hello, I recently noticed more and more light shining through gaps in our front and back doors (both steel exterior doors). The back door is especially bad with the deadbolt no longer lining up with the hole. The wood under the back door jamb was rotten and I replaced that with good wood and sealed everything up underneath. I checked the 3 hinges on each door and noticed the top hinge on each door only has two screws each--not sure what length screws.

The gaps are so big that new weatherstripping does not fix the problem. After doing some reading I'm guessing it's the doors are just sagging after 15-17 years. Is there anything that can be done to remedy this problem besides replacing the door and frame?
Take pictures of both doors, interior and exterior shots and post them.
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For loose hinges tighten them, if the holes are stripped out, I have drilled them out, inserted glued hardwood doweling, wait until glue dries, and then redrill and screw.

For shifting framework, you need to find out why it is shifting so much.

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Not sure what angle pictures you'd like posted so here's a few showing light through cracks and the angles of gap at top of doors.

It's also possible the winds from hurricane Katrina helped in messing these doors up some.
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Bottom needs new weather strip, and you may be able to adjust the lintel up closer to the bottom of the door if thats a steel door and it looks like it is.

Tighten the hinges on both the door and the jam/frame, add new magnetic weather stripping.

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Should I have upward pressure on the door as I tighten the top hinges? And I already replaced the magnetic weatherstripping. Bought the bottom strip for the back door (one with the big gap). Will get it put on tomorrow.

Thanks for all the input!
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The hinge side jamb is not plumb. It's curved and needs to be reset. The bottom weatherstripping needs to be replaced, it's shredded.
It would help if you showed the weatherstripping on the exterior. It doesn't look continuous.
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K Ron. Will get picture of that tomorrow.

So seeing a curve and needing it reset; what would that entail?
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By the way, I don't think tightening the top hinge will level the door enough to bring the deadbolt high enough to use. It's that far off.
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K Ron. Will get picture of that tomorrow.

So seeing a curve and needing it reset; what would that entail?
Pulling off the molding on the hinge side, accessing the shims , releasing the attachments and resetting the jamb.
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K. Thanks again, Ron. Will tear into it on Tuesday when wife doesn't have class so I can have her help and blame any problems on her .
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K. Thanks again, Ron. Will tear into it on Tuesday when wife doesn't have class so I can have her help and blame any problems on her .
You must be a newlywed, or recently had a stroke to believe that.
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Hahaha Married a little over 2 years, but, been together for almost 8. She shrugs off my blaming. (we actually do projects great together--tense moments followed by hours of laughs).

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