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Old 10-15-2013, 02:32 PM   #1
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Hello.
I have a question I'm hoping to get some help with, and even more, hoping you will tell me what I want to hear!
I live in a 40+ year old home . It appears that the original contractors who built the house applied wall paper directly to the drywall, instead of priming/painting first. Now when we try getting off the wall paper (which is nearly impossible), it takes with it the top layer of drywall paper, leaving a brown papery surface.
My question is, can I paint/mud over that surface? Or do I need to cut out and replace those sections? If I mud over it (creating texture), will it adhere long-term?

Thanks in advance!

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Nope. Once the paper is destroyed on drywall. Its done. I will be corrected if i'm wrong.

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Apply a coat of Gardz, maybe 2 and skim coat as normal
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That is what Gardz does best.
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I agree with #2. Due to government slowdown, my link is temp. kaput; http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2003/crame03a.pdf
Basically, it said the paper is what holds the gypsum board sheet on the wall/ceiling while the core releases moisture during a fire, extending the time for occupant escape. By 20 minutes or so.... So, either always stay awake or run fast.... if you just paint over it.
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I agree with #2. Due to government slowdown, my link is temp. kaput; http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/pdf2003/crame03a.pdf
Basically, it said the paper is what holds the gypsum board sheet on the wall/ceiling while the core releases moisture during a fire, extending the time for occupant escape. By 20 minutes or so.... So, either always stay awake or run fast.... if you just paint over it.
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Gary I agree if you did nothing but paint it. But if you seal it (Gardz) then skim it with drywall compound you are better than with just the paper.
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Gary I agree if you did nothing but paint it. But if you seal it (Gardz) then skim it with drywall compound you are better than with just the paper.

I wasn't 100 percent sure this would work. I was going to say guardz and a skim coat.
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Thanks.
I can't find that stuff anywhere!
No one's ever heard of it. And one guy at a hardware store I called said I don't need it, just mud over the brown papery stuff. Ugh.
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I can't find that stuff anywhere!
No one's ever heard of it. And one guy at a hardware store I called said I don't need it, just mud over the brown papery stuff. Ugh.
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call a real paint store, PPG carries it, maybe Sherwin Williams and or Ben Moore

If you cannot find it, this stuff will work and SW carries it for sure
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I used Gardz on my ceiling just this morning, it definitely exists and it is amazing!!! After you use it you can sand the surface. HD and Lowes don't carry it. I found it at Parker Paints. Don't stop until you find it, it saves SOoOo much time
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I had a hard time finding it too SW doesn't carry it. I found it at a small local paint store.
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I had to order it online, but fast shipping. I bought it for the very same reason. 30 yo wallpaper on drywall.
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Hello.
I have a question I'm hoping to get some help with, and even more, hoping you will tell me what I want to hear!
I live in a 40+ year old home . It appears that the original contractors who built the house applied wall paper directly to the drywall, instead of priming/painting first. Now when we try getting off the wall paper (which is nearly impossible), it takes with it the top layer of drywall paper, leaving a brown papery surface.
My question is, can I paint/mud over that surface? Or do I need to cut out and replace those sections? If I mud over it (creating texture), will it adhere long-term?

Thanks in advance!
The best thing to do is skim coat the areas with drywall mud. No need to paint first after it has dried sand and prime and you should be ready to go.

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