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Old 02-14-2010, 10:04 PM   #1
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So I have noticed with the North winds that there seems to be a draft coming from under the sill of my front door. I can feel it coming from betwen the trim and the tile. Thus the ceramic tile by the front door is always freezing cold. Any ideas on how to fix this?

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Where? Inside or outside? I have vinyl siding. Should I remove the piece of trim from the bottom of the door and put caulking in there?

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Maybe expanding foam - probably one that does not expand so much?
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Leah is right with suggesting caulk. Weather may not permit application at this time but when there is a warm spell, do it. The caulk is applied under the door-sill from the outside. If you are familiar with "backer rod" but that under the sill first, on the outside and then apply your caulk.
Just to check for that air leak put a lighted match or candle near the bottom of the door on the inside to see if that is your problem.
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why is this happeneing?

Proper practice is to apply thick bead of caulking on the sub floor under where the threshold sits. Thus your problem should not happen.

Reallity is, the carpenter dryfits the prehung door.. to be sure i fits ok in the rough opening... they might play with it a bit to get it plum and be sure it will fit in the right position... then they get lazy... instead of pulling the door out and applying the caulk at the caulk the bottom...and playing with the door again... they shim and set the door. If they feel a little guilty, they might caulk the exterior of the threshold.

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the threshold needs to be secured to the foundation with a construction adhesive. Not caulk
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I was taught to use a bed of mortor under the threshold if it was metal with a space under it - so it would have a solid feel when stepped on.
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Well so do I just run a bead between where the sill and the siding meet? I guess that is the best I can do huh?

Well I guess the lazy contractors are getting what they deserve now with the housing bust. All those years of doing sloppy work... I know there are a few honest ones out there but most will do just about anything to save a buck.

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yea because you never meet cheap skate homeowners now do you
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yea because you never meet cheap skate homeowners now do you
This has nothing to do with being cheap... just being lazy. Hell... at least run a bead of caulk before you put the siding up. Its not hard!

What is comes down to is builders being lazy and not being properly educated. Building code and city building inspectors are not enough. Builders need to be educated better and held accountable. People can get sick from sloppy work! (e.g. mold)
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the threshold needs to be secured to the foundation with a construction adhesive. Not caulk
agreed! Back in the olden days we used adhesive caulk (phenoseal) sp?
We had it on the truck for our counter top work anyway.


The advent of the good PL products changed that.

PS. ( Lazy carpenters ?) some Pre hung doors want to be bears.
slab or subfloor not level, wall is racked, rough opening to tight and not
square or plum.... after tuning, shiming, adjusting, balancing for 20 minutes to besure the door will fit and operate perfectly.... OK now pull the door out and seal the bottom... and fit it all over again...
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So I have noticed with the North winds that there seems to be a draft coming from under the sill of my front door. I can feel it coming from betwen the trim and the tile. Thus the ceramic tile by the front door is always freezing cold. Any ideas on how to fix this?
OOps,

Let us besure we are talking about the same area. Nomenclature: to name it, is to know it... many terms appear to be regionalized.

Can OP post a picture and point to area of concern?

Is the air infiltration coming from under a threshold on a prehung door with intregral threshold? In older construction door sill refers to the area under
the door opening (top front edge sloped) upon which threshold is installed.

Let's just be sure we are on the same page.
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I'll post pictures when my wife gets home with the camera here in the next hour.
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Here are the pictures. On the interior picture this is where the draft is coming from. On exterior the red shows the gap where I think it is coming from. The siding is Vinyl. House is only 2 years old
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